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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’ve used FXS ports (just like the VG224s of course) in 2800-series
routers with no issues as well. ATAs—nothing but issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Leslie Meade<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 06, 2009 10:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fuermann, Jason; JASON BURWELL; Tim Reimers;
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco VOIP and fire alarm phone lines<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We have the same thing but we have used VG224’s for all our
firepannels, with no issues<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Fuermann, Jason<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'JASON BURWELL'; Tim Reimers; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco VOIP and fire alarm phone lines<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>When we checked there was an exception if you owned the entire
cable plant that you didn’t have to use the Telco<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>JASON BURWELL<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim Reimers; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco VOIP and fire alarm phone lines<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>You may want to check up on NFPA72 Fire Alarm Code, I&nbsp;don't
recall the section. Unless it has recently changed, I am almost certain at
least the primary line has to be a dedicated&nbsp;POTS line direct from the
Telco. I know the secondary line can be shared if used in conjunction with an
RJ31X but do not recall if there are any PBX restrictions on it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Jason</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Reimers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] Cisco VOIP and fire alarm phone lines</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Does
anyone know if Cisco has any recommendations they officially make on supporting
analog telephony devices like fire alarm panels?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We
use ATAs for supplying dialtone to&nbsp; fire alarm dialers, and we're getting
issues with some panels getting &quot;comm trouble&quot; issues, and data not
getting to the monitoring company correctly.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The
security vendors and the OEM manufacturers are saying &quot;we don't recommend
VOIP for alarm lines&quot;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Our
management is saying that surely Cisco supports this, and with the correct
configuration, they can make this happen.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I'm
looking for some official Cisco guidance (links to design guide statements,
etc) </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>that
might break the deadlock, and either allow me to prove to the vendors and OEMs
that VOIP is indeed a stable technology</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>or,
allow Cisco the graceful way of saying &quot;it's best not to do that&quot;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Anyone
got anything to offer?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I'd
imagine that there's a fair number of folks who've just decided not to use VOIP
for this purpose- </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>That's
just not the decision here though..and I'm not the policymaker on that level.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Tim</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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