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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Enterprise Agreement, I believe it is actually true as long as you have software assurance<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>http://www.microsoft.com/communicationsserver/en/us/public-im-connectivity.aspx<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Matthew Loraditch</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><br>1965 Greenspring Drive<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Timonium, MD 21093 <br><a href="mailto:support@heliontechnologies.com"><span style='color:black'>support@heliontechnologies.com</span></a><br>(p) (410) 252-8830<br>(F) (443) 541-1593<br><br>Visit us at <a href="http://www.heliontechnologies.com"><span style='color:black'>www.heliontechnologies.com</span></a> <br>Support Issue? Email <a href="mailto:support@heliontechnologies.com"><span style='color:black'>support@heliontechnologies.com</span></a> for fast assistance!</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> Matt Slaga (US)<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft "communications clients"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Interesting...you mention no charge if you are EA licensed.....what's EA licensed?<br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Matt Slaga (US)" <Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com><br>To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br>Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2009 3:45:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft "communications clients"<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The cost is per month / per user, however last I checked it was like 26 cents per user for the Yahoo connection. MSN, AOL and XMPP connections are no charge. Most customers I have dealt with just didn’t connect to Yahoo.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> Matt Slaga (US)<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft "communications clients"</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks everyone. I was asking generally, i.e. CUPS vs OCS, to gauge the availability of features. It's good to hear some level of federation is available.<br><br>I'll have to familiarize myself with what compatibility OCS has with a Cisco voice system.<br><br>With regards to the "monthly" fee - is this per user? per server? per institution? What are the costs like? Are we talking hundreds of dollars per month? thousands?<br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Matt Slaga (US)" <Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com><br>To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca>, "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2009 2:15:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft "communications clients"</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Microsoft OCS requires a minimum of 2 servers, one for internal core services, the other for edge services that is deployed in your perimeter network.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You can federate with MSN and AOL at no monthly charge (if you are EA licensed with Microsoft), Yahoo for a monthly charge. They also have an XMPP gateway to connect to Jabber, Googletalk and other XMPP based systems. This requires an additional server in the perimeter network (in addition to the edge server).</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>CUPS requires a physical server, no co-location yet. CUPS provides XMPP connectivity, but requires ports open all the way through your perimeter network. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:-moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:47 PM<br><b>To:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br><b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft "communications clients"</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Just trying to get my head around two questions, with Cisco or Microsoft's PC based clients:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo10'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>do you need a separate server?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo10'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>can you communicate with individuals outside of your organization, say other MSN clients?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Disclaimer: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information and is for use by the designated addressee(s) named above only. 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