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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You do not need an EA license to federate for free with MSN or
AOL it is part of the standard license.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You do not need two servers when CUPS 8.0 is out.  The ASA will
act as a TLS proxy for this communication. You do not open your ports all the
way through your perimeter network. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Matt Slaga (US)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi; cisco-voip voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft
&quot;communications clients&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Microsoft OCS requires a minimum of 2 servers, one for internal
core services, the other for edge services that is deployed in your perimeter
network.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You can federate with MSN and AOL at no monthly charge (if you are
EA licensed with Microsoft), Yahoo for a monthly charge.&nbsp; They also have
an XMPP gateway to connect to Jabber, Googletalk and other XMPP based
systems.&nbsp; This requires an additional server in the perimeter network (in
addition to the edge server).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>CUPS requires a physical server, no co-location yet.&nbsp; CUPS
provides XMPP connectivity, but requires ports open all the way through your
perimeter network.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft
&quot;communications clients&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Just trying to get my head around two questions, with Cisco or Microsoft's
PC based clients:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     "Verdana","sans-serif"'>do you need a separate server?<o:p></o:p></span></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     "Verdana","sans-serif"'>can you communicate with individuals outside of
     your organization, say other MSN clients?<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
&quot;Bad grammar makes me [sic]&quot; - Tshirt<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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