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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The cost is per month / per user, however last I checked it was
like 26 cents per user for the Yahoo connection.  MSN, AOL and XMPP connections
are no charge.  Most customers I have dealt with just didn’t connect to Yahoo.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Lelio Fulgenzi
[mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matt Slaga (US)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft
&quot;communications clients&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks everyone. I was asking
generally, i.e. CUPS vs OCS, to gauge the availability of features. It's good
to hear some level of federation is available.<br>
<br>
I'll have to familiarize myself with what compatibility OCS has with a Cisco
voice system.<br>
<br>
With regards to the &quot;monthly&quot; fee - is this per user? per server? per
institution? What are the costs like? Are we talking hundreds of dollars per
month? thousands?<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
&quot;Bad grammar makes me [sic]&quot; - Tshirt<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: &quot;Matt Slaga (US)&quot; &lt;Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com&gt;<br>
To: &quot;Lelio Fulgenzi&quot; &lt;lelio@uoguelph.ca&gt;, &quot;cisco-voip voyp
list&quot; &lt;cisco-voip@puck.nether.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2009 2:15:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft
&quot;communications&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;clients&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Microsoft
OCS requires a minimum of 2 servers, one for internal core services, the other
for edge services that is deployed in your perimeter network.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You
can federate with MSN and AOL at no monthly charge (if you are EA licensed with
Microsoft), Yahoo for a monthly charge.&nbsp; They also have an XMPP gateway to
connect to Jabber, Googletalk and other XMPP based systems.&nbsp; This requires
an additional server in the perimeter network (in addition to the edge server).</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>CUPS
requires a physical server, no co-location yet.&nbsp; CUPS provides XMPP
connectivity, but requires ports open all the way through your perimeter
network.&nbsp; </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft
&quot;communications clients&quot;</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Just
trying to get my head around two questions, with Cisco or Microsoft's PC based
clients:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     "Verdana","sans-serif"'>do you need a separate server?<o:p></o:p></span></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
     "Verdana","sans-serif"'>can you communicate with individuals outside of
     your organization, say other MSN clients?<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
&quot;Bad grammar makes me [sic]&quot; - Tshirt</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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