<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>Interesting...you mention no charge if you are EA licensed.....what's EA licensed?<br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Matt Slaga (US)" <Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com><br>To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br>Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2009 3:45:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft "communications clients"<br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The cost is per month / per user, however last I checked it was
like 26 cents per user for the Yahoo connection. MSN, AOL and XMPP connections
are no charge. Most customers I have dealt with just didn’t connect to Yahoo.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> Lelio Fulgenzi
[mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matt Slaga (US)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft
"communications clients"</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">Thanks everyone. I was asking
generally, i.e. CUPS vs OCS, to gauge the availability of features. It's good
to hear some level of federation is available.<br>
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I'll have to familiarize myself with what compatibility OCS has with a Cisco
voice system.<br>
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With regards to the "monthly" fee - is this per user? per server? per
institution? What are the costs like? Are we talking hundreds of dollars per
month? thousands?<br>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Matt Slaga (US)" <Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com><br>
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca>, "cisco-voip voyp
list" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2009 2:15:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft
"communications clients"</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Microsoft
OCS requires a minimum of 2 servers, one for internal core services, the other
for edge services that is deployed in your perimeter network.</span><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">You
can federate with MSN and AOL at no monthly charge (if you are EA licensed with
Microsoft), Yahoo for a monthly charge. They also have an XMPP gateway to
connect to Jabber, Googletalk and other XMPP based systems. This requires
an additional server in the perimeter network (in addition to the edge server).</span><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">CUPS
requires a physical server, no co-location yet. CUPS provides XMPP
connectivity, but requires ports open all the way through your perimeter
network. </span><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft
"communications clients"</span><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">Just
trying to get my head around two questions, with Cisco or Microsoft's PC based
clients:</span><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="color: black;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif";">do you need a separate server?</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color: black;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif";">can you communicate with individuals outside of
your organization, say other MSN clients?</span></li>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt</span><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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