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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=Section1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If you are placing SIP trunks at remote sites you need to do CUBE for survivability. If you a trunking directly from an off-site CM… SRST is pretty much useless because you are not terminating the trunk locally.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dennis Heim<br>Network Voice Engineer<br>CDW Advanced Technology Services<br>11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225<br>Carmel, IN 46032<br><br>317.569.4255 Office<br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>317.569.4201 Fax<br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>317.694.6070 Cell<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:dennis.heim@cdw.com" title="mailto:dennis.heim@berbee.com">dennis.heim@cdw.com</a><br><a href="http://www.berbee.com/" title="http://www.berbee.com/">www.berbee.com</a></span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Holloway<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jason Aarons<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Ideas for cheaper international calling<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Add TelePacific to your list. Currently we have certified CME, Asterisk, Allworx, Shoretel, Toshiba, Avaya, Siemens, Linksys, and are in the process of certifying Mitel, for SIP Trunking (and more in the pipeline for 2010). Thankfully the Marketing folks at my company listened and we are deploying ISR's running CUBE for every install now to trunk into Broadsoft Broadworks. We originally attempted to certify with a handful of firewalls but the NAT traversal problems were different based on the IP PBX being tested and would be a nightmare to manage what works and what doesn't. Eventually we narrowed it down to Pix/ASA firewall required but of course there are many customers with Sonicwall (among others) who did not want to swap. Now we drop in an ISR parallel to the customers firewall so they can keep their existing hardware, have the customer give us a private IP for one Ethernet port on the ISR, and the PBX SIP Trunk points to the ISR and we handle the rest. CUBE is a life saver!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Dec 6, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Jason Aarons (US) wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I opened a TAC case 613141081 and they confirmed you need a CUBE for the username/password.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So in short Skype for SIP is not certified for Cisco CallManager, but is certified for Cisco Unified Border Element (CUBE). Devil is in the details, but I feel no reasonable small business looking at Skype understands the benefits of CUBE feature licensing and will want to run direct to CallManager and will look at Paetec, Broadsoft, Verizon, Packet or any of the many Skype to Gateway solutions out there…. my personal opinion -jason</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Jason Aarons (US)<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:48 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Aman Chugh<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] Ideas for cheaper international calling</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In CallManager 7.1 where do I input SIP realm settings for the Trunk to Skype?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Aman Chugh [mailto:aman.chugh@gmail.com]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, December 04, 2009 9:36 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Jason Aarons (US)<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] Ideas for cheaper international calling</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>You can use SIP realm settings to create username and passwords for this.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Aman<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Jason Aarons (US) <<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@us.didata.com">jason.aarons@us.didata.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I expect a low cost provider like Skype isn’t going to have any support!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I signed up for Skype for Business and started to set up Skype for SIP tonight direct to a CallManager 7.1.3 box (no CUBE), I’m not clear where in CCMAdmin I can enter my Skype username/password, or if a CUBE is required for authentication. Anyone else setup Skype for SIP and have some tips?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Since CallManager is certified I expected Skype’s website to have some advice, but the best you get is contact the PBX manufacturer…</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Dane Newman<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, December 04, 2009 2:42 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Wes Sisk<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>; Fried Michael<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] Ideas for cheaper international calling</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Has anyone used skype sip trunks and can report there exp? I hear there support is a nightmare<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Wes Sisk <<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank">wsisk@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Skype appears to offer SIP trunks now:<br><a href="http://www.macworld.com/article/144694/2009/12/skypebiz.html?lsrc=rss_main" target="_blank">http://www.macworld.com/article/144694/2009/12/skypebiz.html?lsrc=rss_main</a><br><br>might be an interesting experiment.<br><br>/Wes<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>On Friday, December 04, 2009 12:00:39 PM, Matt Slaga (US)<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com" target="_blank"><Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Other than using MSN and Yahoo or skype point to point for free, there are no completely free options out there. At least, none that are legal.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Fried Michael<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, December 04, 2009 11:41 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[cisco-voip] Ideas for cheaper international calling</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hello all,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I know</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>this</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>isn’t</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>strictly Cisco Technical but was hoping you all could help</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>me out.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>We have a US-based Call Center that will start making hundreds of</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>international calls each day and we</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>don't</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>want to pay the phone company (surprise), we</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>don't</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>have VoIP in the countries we need to call</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>so TEHO</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>won’t work. There</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>are a ton of online services and Skype for</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>SIP, anyone have any experience with beating the system with creative solutions that avoid the toll?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thank you in advance and a good weekend to all!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Mike</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></div><p><strong>Disclaimer: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information and is for use by the designated addressee(s) named above only. 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