<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>Our thinking was that we would only license OCS for faculty/staff (and then, only those that need it). Faculty/staff could use the full feature set of OCS to communicate to one another (we have several campuses) and use a subset of features to communicate to students via MSN. I like the idea of the tie in to the phone system to do all those fancy things like, "oh, just a sec, let me conference us all in to a conversation" click. or, "just a sec, let me start up a desktop sharing session". click.<br><br><br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Mike Wilusz" <mikewilusz@pricechopper.com><br>To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br>Cc: "Philip Walenta" <pwalenta@wi.rr.com>, cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:30:30 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco CUP to OCS federation/integration<br><br>
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<font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Lelio,<br>
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You have more options than CUPS and OCS, especially if you’re looking at extending this to your student populations. Licensing OCS or CUPS for all those users would be $$$$$! You may be better off offering a cheap/no-cost IM solution to the students that allows open federation to other networks. Students use this and it federates to whatever they needs to talk to (AIM, Gtalk, MSN...), and with CUPS 8.0 you’ll be able to federate between the student IM server and the CUPS server for the teachers. No sense using OCS or CUPS with all the tie-ins to the phone system for all those students who don’t operate IP phones. <br>
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Mike Wilusz, CCNA<br>
Telecommunications & Networking Supervisor <br>
Price Chopper Supermarkets / The Golub Corporation<br>
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<hr align="center" size="3" width="95%"><b>From: </b>Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:53:08 -0500<br>
<b>To: </b>Michael Wilusz <<a href="mikewilusz@pricechopper.com" target="_blank">mikewilusz@pricechopper.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Philip Walenta <<a href="pwalenta@wi.rr.com" target="_blank">pwalenta@wi.rr.com</a>>, <<a href="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco CUP to OCS federation/integration<br>
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I'm interested in hearing about the nightmare. We are considering CUPS vs OCS as a future project, but from what I heard, CUPS can not federate with MSN (yet). Since 99% of our first year students use MSN, I'm leaning towards an OCS implementation with whatever integration we can do with CUCM (+CUPS). We might have fewer features with OCS w/ CUCM than with CUPS w/ CUCM, but if the strategic goal is to allow our students access to faculty/staff via IM, then i'm not sure we have too much of an option.<br>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
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"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
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From: "Mike Wilusz" <<a href="mikewilusz@pricechopper.com" target="_blank">mikewilusz@pricechopper.com</a>><br>
To: "Philip Walenta" <<a href="pwalenta@wi.rr.com" target="_blank">pwalenta@wi.rr.com</a>>, <a href="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:24:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco CUP to OCS federation/integration<br>
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Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco CUP to OCS federation/integration </span></font></font><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I did a CUPS to OCS federation setup. You definitely do not need to use an ASA. Follow the CUPS doc and you’ll be fine from that side. OCS is a nightmare but it will work. We ditched OCS and are going with a total CUPS implementation.<br>
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Mike Wilusz, CCNA<br>
Telecommunications & Networking Supervisor <br>
Price Chopper Supermarkets / The Golub Corporation<br>
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<hr align="center" size="3" width="95%"><b>From: </b>Philip Walenta <<a href="pwalenta@wi.rr.com" target="_blank">pwalenta@wi.rr.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:04:31 -0600<br>
<b>To: </b><<a href="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[cisco-voip] Cisco CUP to OCS federation/integration<br>
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Has anyone done a CUP to OCS federation/integration?<br>
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I’m looking for good documentation because Cisco’s doc wiki just keeps running me in circles?<br>
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It says I need an ASA to do this and I can’t believe I need an ASA to link OCS to CUP in the same company.<br>
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