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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>With OCS RCC integration with Cisco, you will not have the
conference click. Microsoft removed that functionality as a means of pushing
their own SIP server. It existed and worked great in LCS, but removed it in
OCS.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Wilusz<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco CUP to OCS federation/integration<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Our thinking was that we would
only license OCS for faculty/staff (and then, only those that need it).
Faculty/staff could use the full feature set of OCS to communicate to one
another (we have several campuses) and use a subset of features to communicate
to students via MSN. I like the idea of the tie in to the phone system to do
all those fancy things like, "oh, just a sec, let me conference us all in
to a conversation" click. or, "just a sec, let me start up a desktop
sharing session". click.<br>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Mike Wilusz" <mikewilusz@pricechopper.com><br>
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br>
Cc: "Philip Walenta" <pwalenta@wi.rr.com>,
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:30:30 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco CUP to OCS federation/integration<br>
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</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Lelio,<br>
<br>
You have more options than CUPS and OCS, especially if you’re looking at
extending this to your student populations. Licensing OCS or CUPS for all
those users would be $$$$$! You may be better off offering a
cheap/no-cost IM solution to the students that allows open federation to other
networks. Students use this and it federates to whatever they needs to
talk to (AIM, Gtalk, MSN...), and with CUPS 8.0 you’ll be able to federate
between the student IM server and the CUPS server for the teachers. No
sense using OCS or CUPS with all the tie-ins to the phone system for all those
students who don’t operate IP phones. <br>
<br>
Mike Wilusz, CCNA<br>
Telecommunications & Networking Supervisor <br>
Price Chopper Supermarkets / The Golub Corporation<br>
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font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Lelio
Fulgenzi <<a href="lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:53:08 -0500<br>
<b>To: </b>Michael Wilusz <<a href="mikewilusz@pricechopper.com"
target="_blank">mikewilusz@pricechopper.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Philip Walenta <<a href="pwalenta@wi.rr.com" target="_blank">pwalenta@wi.rr.com</a>>,
<<a href="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco CUP to OCS federation/integration<br>
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</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><br>
I'm interested in hearing about the nightmare. We are considering CUPS vs OCS
as a future project, but from what I heard, CUPS can not federate with MSN
(yet). Since 99% of our first year students use MSN, I'm leaning towards an OCS
implementation with whatever integration we can do with CUCM (+CUPS). We might
have fewer features with OCS w/ CUCM than with CUPS w/ CUCM, but if the strategic
goal is to allow our students access to faculty/staff via IM, then i'm not sure
we have too much of an option.<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Mike Wilusz" <<a href="mikewilusz@pricechopper.com"
target="_blank">mikewilusz@pricechopper.com</a>><br>
To: "Philip Walenta" <<a href="pwalenta@wi.rr.com" target="_blank">pwalenta@wi.rr.com</a>>,
<a href="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:24:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco CUP to OCS federation/integration<br>
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Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco CUP to OCS federation/integration </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I did a
CUPS to OCS federation setup. You definitely do not need to use an ASA.
Follow the CUPS doc and you’ll be fine from that side. OCS is a
nightmare but it will work. We ditched OCS and are going with a total
CUPS implementation.<br>
<br>
Mike Wilusz, CCNA<br>
Telecommunications & Networking Supervisor <br>
Price Chopper Supermarkets / The Golub Corporation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Philip
Walenta <<a href="pwalenta@wi.rr.com" target="_blank">pwalenta@wi.rr.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:04:31 -0600<br>
<b>To: </b><<a href="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[cisco-voip] Cisco CUP to OCS federation/integration<br>
<br>
Has anyone done a CUP to OCS federation/integration?<br>
<br>
I’m looking for good documentation because Cisco’s doc wiki just keeps running
me in circles?<br>
<br>
It says I need an ASA to do this and I can’t believe I need an ASA to
link OCS to CUP in the same company.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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