<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Cool. Thanks. <br><br>Lelio Fulgenzi, <span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373); ">Senior Analyst</span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);">Computing & Communications</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);">University of Guelph</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);">519-824-4120 x56354</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);">...sent from my iPod - please pardon my fat fingers ;) </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);">[XKJ2000]</span></div></div><div><br>On 2010-01-01, at 12:23 PM, Jason Shearer <<a href="mailto:jshearer@amedisys.com">jshearer@amedisys.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">The web conferencing engine for MP is Adobe Connect. There really is no SKU specific to Adobe Connect portion per se…..it is just bundled into the solution.
I’m sure Cisco could increase their margins if they just replaced the engine with WebEx and did away with Adobe Connect. There would also be a lot better support. I have gotten a lot on answers to questions/problems from the BU along the lines of “That is
just how Adobe Connect works” or “Sorry, that is a limitation of Adobe Connect”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D">Jason<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a> [mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 01, 2010 11:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jason Shearer<br>
<b>Cc:</b> John Huston; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>; JonathanCharles<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cool Licensing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cisco re-sells Adobe Connect? Does it have a Cisco SKU?<o:p></o:p></p>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, <span class="apple-style-span">Senior Analyst</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span">University of Guelph</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span">519-824-4120 x56354</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span">...sent from my iPod - please pardon my fat fingers ;) </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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On 2010-01-01, at 11:28 AM, Jason Shearer <<a href="mailto:jshearer@amedisys.com"><a href="mailto:jshearer@amedisys.com">jshearer@amedisys.com</a></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Correct on the acronyms. I am speculating that the MP and MPX will merge in the near future as they
are getting pretty close to the same feature sets. MP7 actually uses a lot of base code from MPX in the application server. No reason to continue development of two products. WebEx is sure to be Cisco’s standard for the web conferencing portion of the collaboration
suite……no reason to continue reselling Adobe Connect.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I will also be interesting to see what Cisco does with the rebranded Radvison MCU now that they own
Tandberg.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Happy new year to all.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jason</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Huston<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></a>; Jonathan Charles; Jason Shearer<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cool Licensing</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">mp=meeting place<br>
mpx=meeting place express<br>
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i thinks.<br>
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webex (and other hosted solutions) seems to be taking focus now. but i think it's cyclical. hosted now, on premise next year. bottom line is if you want hosted applications for mission critical apps, you're going to be pouring your dollars into redundant internet
connections. <br>
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there ain't no such thing as a free lunch. <br>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
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"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
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From: "John Huston" <<a href="mailto:fentonguy2003@yahoo.com"><a href="mailto:fentonguy2003@yahoo.com">fentonguy2003@yahoo.com</a></a>><br>
To: "Jonathan Charles" <<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com">jonvoip@gmail.com</a></a>>, "Jason Shearer" <<a href="mailto:jshearer@amedisys.com"><a href="mailto:jshearer@amedisys.com">jshearer@amedisys.com</a></a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></a><br>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:23:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cool Licensing</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"inherit","serif"">What is MP and MPX? Never heard those terms before?<br>
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Thanks<br>
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--- On <b>Thu, 12/31/09, Jason Shearer <i><<a href="mailto:jshearer@amedisys.com"><a href="mailto:jshearer@amedisys.com">jshearer@amedisys.com</a></a>></i></b> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Jason Shearer <<a href="mailto:jshearer@amedisys.com"><a href="mailto:jshearer@amedisys.com">jshearer@amedisys.com</a></a>><br>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Cool Licensing<br>
To: "Jonathan Charles" <<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com">jonvoip@gmail.com</a></a>>, "John Huston" <<a href="mailto:fentonguy2003@yahoo.com"><a href="mailto:fentonguy2003@yahoo.com">fentonguy2003@yahoo.com</a></a>><br>
Cc: "<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></a>" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></a>><br>
Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:39 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Licensing is just sold as a discounted bundle….nothing changes technically. The one thing that sucks is no full MP licensing with pro…..just
MPX. I heard this may be changing.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Jason</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a></a> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Charles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Huston<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cool Licensing</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Nope, you just get a big book of PAKs<br>
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Jonathan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:22 PM, John Huston <<a href="/mc/compose?to=fentonguy2003@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:fentonguy2003@yahoo.com">fentonguy2003@yahoo.com</a></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Do you setup a licensing server? <br>
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From: Jonathan Charles <<a href="/mc/compose?to=jonvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com">jonvoip@gmail.com</a></a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cool Licensing<br>
To: "John Huston" <<a href="/mc/compose?to=fentonguy2003@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:fentonguy2003@yahoo.com">fentonguy2003@yahoo.com</a></a>><br>
Cc: <a href="/mc/compose?to=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></a><br>
Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:20 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Well, it works pretty normally, but instead of buying DLUs as needed you get 17 DLUs per user (or less, 17 is for pro...)...<br>
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You also get UM licenses for Unity (or user/port licenses for CUC), licenses for MPX, Presence, etc...<br>
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Jonathan<br>
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On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:14 PM, John Huston <<a href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fentonguy2003@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:fentonguy2003@yahoo.com">fentonguy2003@yahoo.com</a></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Is anyone using Cisco's cool licensing with their CallManager and Unity systems and if so how does it work?<o:p></o:p></p>
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