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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Actually &#8211; I&#8217;ve just realised that the location on the
phone I was testing with was wrong.&nbsp; Even though the CSS for the PSTN was
correct, I&#8217;m assuming that because Call Manager saw the phone in one
location and it breaking out of another this is why it was deducting the 64K.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Also, when I realised this, I decided to check all the other
phones for that site and one phone (which must have been moved from another location)
had the wrong location/CSS/PSTN.&nbsp; So every call this phone made, would go
out through the WAN at 64K ( I think).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There another question &#8211; If &nbsp;calls between regions
are g729, and a phone from location A is routed out via the WAN through
location B, does it go as g711 or g729.&nbsp; Testing would suggest that it
goes at g711??<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Neil<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> O'Brien, Neil <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 29 January 2010 20:37<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Call Admission Control and ISDN Calls<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I&#8217;m
going to try and explain this as best I can.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>We
have Call Manager 7 cluster in a centralised call processing model with 9
satellite sites.&nbsp; All outbound calls from each site breakout locally to
that site, be it via ISDN BRI or PRI.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Each
route list for each site has a send entry for another site.&nbsp; In the event
local outbound calls fail, they will go via the WAN and breakout from the other
site.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>On
one site (I&#8217;m worried now that it might be on the other sites as well)
I&#8217;ve been troubleshooting for a while now an issue whereby when only one
channel of a BRI is being used, all the rest of the out bound calls start going
out through the other site, even though there is a second channel on the active
BRI and 2 other BRI (4 channels) available.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Removing
the backup paths from the route list and using a single BRI I started debugging
and came to the conclusion that the second channel wasn&#8217;t being utilised
but after some more digging I realised that I was getting &#8220;Not Enough
Bandwidth&#8221; when a second call was attempted.&nbsp; This pointed me at
Call Admission Control.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>The
site in question only has a 128k link into it, and I have the location
bandwidth set accordingly.&nbsp; But when I up the bandwidth allocation or set
it to unlimited for that location, calls start going out on all BRI&#8217;s
&nbsp;no problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Now
I&#8217;m confused &#8211; I thought the CAC only tracked calls between
locations, deducting bandwidth accordingly.&nbsp; But for some reason,
it&#8217;s deducting 64K (an ISDN channel) from this locations bandwidth
allocation, even though the call is breaking out locally.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I&#8217;d
appreciate anyone&#8217;s help on this.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t know yet if
it&#8217;s just this site, I&#8217;m going to start testing when I send this
mail.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Thanks
in advance,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Neil<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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