I would much rather have CER and not have to worry about the user who brings their phone with them from another site and not tell us so that the 911 call routes incorrectly via CSS to the previous sites PSTN connection. Been worried about it for 3 years now. just waiting for the budget or the lawsuit......<div>
<br></div><div>Scott<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Jonathan Charles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com">jonvoip@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I would rather have false 911 calls then introduce a delay in the routing of an emergency call....<br><br>Just change your access code to 8.<br><font color="#888888"><br><br>Jonathan</font><div><div></div><div class="h5">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Dennis Heim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Dennis.Heim@cdw.com" target="_blank">Dennis.Heim@cdw.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">You safest bet is to utilizing an inter-digit (t.302 delay).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">911 & 911?, so when you dial 911 it will wait to see if you are going to enter another digit. Also make sure urgent priority is not checked. That can help reduce accidental 911 calls. I’d rather have false 911 calls then have my butt on the line for unity failing, etc.</span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">Dennis Heim<br>Network Voice Engineer<br>
CDW Advanced Technology Services<br>11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225<br>Carmel, IN 46032<br><br>317.569.4255 Office<br></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">317.569.4201 Fax<br></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">317.694.6070 Cell</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><a href="mailto:dennis.heim@cdw.com" title="mailto:dennis.heim@berbee.com" target="_blank">dennis.heim@cdw.com</a><br><a href="http://www.berbee.com/" title="http://www.berbee.com/" target="_blank">www.berbee.com</a></span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt"> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 26, 2010 1:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jonathan Charles</span></p><div><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br></div><div><div></div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 911 Calls</div></div><p></p></div></div><div><div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">I think you hit the nail on the head on two points:</span></p>
<ul type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black"><span style="font-size:10pt">you have to be aware of the 911 legislation in your area</span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black"><span style="font-size:10pt">how many "points of failure" are you adding</span></li>
</ul><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">The list brings of many options and examples, you have to be aware of the ramifications of these examples and see if they fit.<br>
<br>I for one, would not want to introduce anything outside of the native phone system into 911 call handling. But that's just me....<br> <br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Jonathan Charles" <<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonvoip@gmail.com</a>><br>To: "Steve Sarrick" <<a href="mailto:ssarrick@drsllc.net" target="_blank">ssarrick@drsllc.net</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 1:00:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 911 Calls<br><br>Just out of curiosity, but what are the legal ramifications of this?<br>
<br>You are technically interfering with the routing of an emergency services request and could run into some pretty serious legal jeopardy (at minimum serious civil liability if Unity goes down....)<br><br>In IL the installer of the phone system is legally responsible for the routing of 911 calls (both the 911 and the X.911 pattern (X being the access code).... <br>
<br><br><a href="http://www.redskytech.com/documents/E-911_Enacted_Legislation.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.redskytech.com/documents/E-911_Enacted_Legislation.pdf</a><br><br><br><br>Jonathan</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Steve Sarrick <<a href="mailto:ssarrick@drsllc.net" target="_blank">ssarrick@drsllc.net</a>> wrote:</span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">We route to Unity first playing a message that says “you have dialed 911, if this is an emergency stay on the line, otherwise hang up”. There are blogs out there how to do it, I can find it for you if you want to go this route. 9911 goes out normal.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black"> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>H, Tim<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:54 PM</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black"> [cisco-voip] 911 Calls</span></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">All,</span><span style="color:black"></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">Lately we've been seeing more and more 911 calls go out of our building by "accident." None of our route patterns have changed lately. I'm not sure why this could be happening. A couple of questions.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">1. Is there a good way to prevent this from happening? Is anyone else doing anything special to prevent this?</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">2. I'm trying to find a way to report on the 911 calls and am unable to find a report that will accommodate my needs. Does anyone know of reports to run for this?</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">Thanks,</span><span style="color:black"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">Tim</span><span style="color:black"></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black"><br>
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