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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Are we talking about licensing as I know it (on 7.x) or is this
some new scheme?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Craig Staffin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Huston<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> {Fraud?} {Disarmed} Re: [cisco-voip] CallManager v8 data sheet
out<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>John,<br>
<br>
The gripe about 15.x code being licensed is completely unfounded.<br>
<br>
I am a consultant so end up dealing with it first hand every day. Yes it
sucks that we now need to go through the process of license activation.
However the only reason that is the case is because of people not following the
rules to begin with.<br>
<br>
Also as long as the box is ordered correctly to begin with the license is
already activated from the factory.<br>
<br>
The only people they hurt when they moved to this model were people who simply
stole the code to begin with. The only exception is when a device goes RMA
you must work with TAC to get the license rehomed. However you are
already working with them to get a replacement device so they take care of it
right away anyway.<br>
<br>
Craig<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:36 PM, John Huston <<a
href="mailto:fentonguy2003@yahoo.com">fentonguy2003@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"inherit","serif"'>I wouldn't
count on it. Cisco is getting worse than Microsoft about
licensing. Have you tried to run 15.x code?<br>
<br>
--- On <b>Thu, 3/4/10, Mark Holloway <i><<a
href="mailto:mh@markholloway.com" target="_blank">mh@markholloway.com</a>></i></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: Mark Holloway <<a href="mailto:mh@markholloway.com" target="_blank">mh@markholloway.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CallManager v8 data sheet out<br>
To: "Tanner Ezell" <<a href="mailto:tanner.ezell@gmail.com"
target="_blank">tanner.ezell@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <<a
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 12:00 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"inherit","serif"'>Hopefully we
can still perform the demo install with VMWare. It's useful for staging
and recreating certain configurations.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mar 4, 2010, at 7:30 AM, Tanner Ezell wrote:<br>
<br>
> I'm not surprised by this and I think we all saw this coming. Cisco's<br>
> not going to let you build a white box vmware server for 1/3th the<br>
> price of their UCS solution and let you use that for production.<br>
> <br>
> What I imagine will happen is eventually Cisco will let you run it on<br>
> boxes with approved specs with an additional 'whitebox vmware'<br>
> license.<br>
> <br>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a
href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lelio@uoguelph.ca"
target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I believe it's on UCS only for now. Other VM infrastructure may
follow?<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> ---<br>
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G
2W1<br>
>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
>>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.<br>
>>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr.
Popeil)<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> ----- Original Message -----<br>
>> From: "Peter Pauly" <<a
href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ppauly@gmail.com"
target="_blank"><b><span style='color:red'>MailScanner has detected a
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>> To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a
href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lelio@uoguelph.ca"
target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>><br>
>> Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <<a
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>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2010 8:36:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
Eastern<br>
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CallManager v8 data sheet out<br>
>> <br>
>> "Cisco Unified Communications Manager 8.0(2) can run on VMware
on<br>
>> Cisco UCS B200 M1 and UCS C210 M1 servers" - so I can only run
this on<br>
>> VMware if I use Cisco's hardware for the host? WTF?<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a
href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lelio@uoguelph.ca"
target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <a
href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6788/vcallcon/ps556/ps10662/data_sheet_c78-584298.html"
target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6788/vcallcon/ps556/ps10662/data_sheet_c78-584298.html</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> ---<br>
>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
>>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
N1G 2W1<br>
>>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
>>>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
>>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.<br>
>>>
- LFJ (with apologies to
Mr. Popeil)<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
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> Tanner Ezell<br>
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