<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">It's your opinion founded.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 3/4/10, Craig Staffin <I><craig@staffin.org></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV id=yiv735473434>John,<BR><BR>The gripe about 15.x code being licensed is completely unfounded.<BR><BR>I am a consultant so end up dealing with it first hand every day. Yes it sucks that we now need to go through the process of license activation. However the only reason that is the case is because of people not following the rules to begin with.<BR><BR>Also as long as the box is ordered correctly to begin with the license is already activated from the factory.<BR><BR>The only people they hurt when they moved to this model were people who simply stole the code to begin with. The only exception is when a device goes RMA you must work with TAC to get the license rehomed. However you are already working with them to get a replacement device so they take care of it right away anyway.<BR><BR>Craig<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:36 PM, John Huston <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fentonguy2003@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:fentonguy2003@yahoo.com">fentonguy2003@yahoo.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<TD style="FONT-FAMILY: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit" vAlign=top>I wouldn't count on it. Cisco is getting worse than Microsoft about licensing. Have you tried to run 15.x code?<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 3/4/10, Mark Holloway <I><<A href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mh@markholloway.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:mh@markholloway.com">mh@markholloway.com</A>></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Mark Holloway <<A href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mh@markholloway.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:mh@markholloway.com">mh@markholloway.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CallManager v8 data sheet out<BR>To: "Tanner Ezell" <<A href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanner.ezell@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:tanner.ezell@gmail.com">tanner.ezell@gmail.com</A>><BR>Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <<A href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A>><BR>Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 12:00 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV>Hopefully we can still perform the demo install with VMWare. It's useful for staging and recreating certain configurations.<BR><BR><BR>On Mar 4, 2010, at 7:30 AM, Tanner Ezell wrote:<BR><BR>> I'm not surprised by this and I think we all saw this coming. Cisco's<BR>> not going to let you build a white box vmware server for 1/3th the<BR>> price of their UCS solution and let you use that for production.<BR>> <BR>> What I imagine will happen is eventually Cisco will let you run it on<BR>> boxes with approved specs with an additional 'whitebox vmware'<BR>> license.<BR>> <BR>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<A href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lelio@uoguelph.ca" rel=nofollow target=_blank>lelio@uoguelph.ca</A>> wrote:<BR>>> I believe it's on UCS only for now. Other VM infrastructure may follow?<BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> ---<BR>>> Lelio Fulgenzi,
B.A.<BR>>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<BR>>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<BR>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<BR>>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.<BR>>> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>>> From: "Peter Pauly" <<A href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ppauly@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank>ppauly@gmail.com</A>><BR>>> To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <<A href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lelio@uoguelph.ca" rel=nofollow target=_blank>lelio@uoguelph.ca</A>><BR>>> Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <<A
href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A>><BR>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2010 8:36:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<BR>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CallManager v8 data sheet out<BR>>> <BR>>> "Cisco Unified Communications Manager 8.0(2) can run on VMware on<BR>>> Cisco UCS B200 M1 and UCS C210 M1 servers" - so I can only run this on<BR>>> VMware if I use Cisco's hardware for the host? WTF?<BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<A href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lelio@uoguelph.ca" rel=nofollow target=_blank>lelio@uoguelph.ca</A>> wrote:<BR>>>> <BR>>>> <A href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6788/vcallcon/ps556/ps10662/data_sheet_c78-584298.html" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6788/vcallcon/ps556/ps10662/data_sheet_c78-584298.html</A><BR>>>> <BR>>>> ---<BR>>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>>>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<BR>>>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<BR>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<BR>>>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.<BR>>>> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<BR>>>> <BR>>>> <BR>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>>> cisco-voip mailing list<BR>>>> <A href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" rel=nofollow
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