<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">The defect Wes pointed out pretty clearly states that "legacy" is referring to the phone _loads_ not the phones themselves. Unfortunately the sentence that seeks to explain this could be worded a bit better. <div><br></div><div><div>
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div>-Ryan</div></span>
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<br><div><div>On Mar 5, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Scott Voll wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">it used to be marketing that would change the name with each new version (eg. CRA, CRS, IPCCx, UCCx) Now marketing has moved to calling everything not new as Legacy. Is Cisco going to continue with the each new product, to call anything else currently shipping legacy? <div>
<br></div><div>I mean really, a 7965 is now a legacy product. they are still a currently shipping product.</div><div><br></div><div><phone user> Hello, can you hear me? I'm using this brand new Legacy phone. </phone user> </div>
<div><br></div><div>Laughing (because it's so stupid) and Crying (because it's going to cost me) at the same time</div><div><br></div><div>Scott</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Jason Aarons (US) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@us.didata.com">jason.aarons@us.didata.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I got a laugh, anything pre 9.0(2) is now legacy! </span></p><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Applying my new Bug Toolkit knowledge, anyone born after November
2009 is now eligible for AARP membership and discounted coffee at McDonalds……</laughing></span></p><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext"> Wes Sisk [mailto:<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank">wsisk@cisco.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 26, 2010 11:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jason Aarons (US); <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></span></p><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Wrong Time on Phones</div></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal">[sent too soon]<br>
clarification on that text:<br>
<a href="http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?method=fetchBugDetails&bugId=CSCtc52241" target="_blank">http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?method=fetchBugDetails&bugId=CSCtc52241</a><br>
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/wes<br>
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On Friday, February 26, 2010 11:17:18 AM, Wes Sisk <a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank"><wsisk@cisco.com></a> wrote:<br>
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</p><p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately the web page in question has chosen to create
a new term with a new definition that does not map to anything previously
used. Please do not try to align this with any existing definitions.<br>
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/Wes<br>
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On Friday, February 26, 2010 11:05:08 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><lelio@uoguelph.ca></a> wrote:<br>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">i
honestly believe that first gen refers to 7940/60s....<br>
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this link is a post by Wes which include bug toolkit notes which states first
gen and lists the 7940s, etc.<br>
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<a href="http://cisco-voip.markmail.org/search/?q=first+generation+wes+sisk#query:first%20generation%20wes%20sisk+page:1+mid:fdxv7enc4d4cf43b+state:results" target="_blank">http://cisco-voip.markmail.org/search/?q=first+generation+wes+sisk#query:first%20generation%20wes%20sisk+page:1+mid:fdxv7enc4d4cf43b+state:results</a><br>
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</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I wouldn’t use the term legacy but I hear Cisco use the term
generation. Legacy is something from the 70s/80s that was analog/digital.</span></p><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">First Generation were Selsius VIP-12/VIP-30/DT-24+ (non-java),
Second Generation were CP-7940/7960/7914/7920 (non-java), Third Generation were
7941/7961/7970/7985/7931/7921 (Java), Fourth Generation with 7945/7965/7915,
Fifth Generation 6900/8900/9900. Probably some errors in my list as I’m going
by memory….maybe Cisco can clarify if we are on Fifth Generation now or were
there more Generations!</span></p><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Frazee<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Carter, Bill<br>
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</div><div> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">As I understand it, all 7900
series phones are Legacy phones.</p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Carter, Bill <<a href="mailto:bcarter@sentinel.com" target="_blank">bcarter@sentinel.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Are 7962Gs considered legacy phones?</p>
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Sent from my iPhone</p>
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On Feb 25, 2010, at 3:32 PM, "Tim Frazee" <<a href="mailto:tfrazee@gmail.com" target="_blank">tfrazee@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Whats the timezone name? I've
seen this when you use the "timezone named" ones instead of
"America/Chicago" or "America/New York".<br>
<br>
For the 7900 series phones, you need to use the time zone names with the * in
the name.</p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Carter, Bill <<a href="mailto:bcarter@sentinel.com" target="_blank">bcarter@sentinel.com</a>>
wrote:</p><p class="MsoNormal">UCM 7.1.3.31900-1<br>
7962 SCCP Load 8.5(3)<br>
<br>
CallManager is sync'd with a public NTP server and displays the correct time
with timezone. (verified with show status and utils ntp status)<br>
<br>
I have a Date/Time Group configured with CST GMT - 6:00. The Device pool has
this Date Time Group.<br>
<br>
All of the phones time is 6hrs off. They display GMT time. I have created other
Date/Time groups with different offsets and the time on the phones never
changes from GMT.<br>
<br>
Ideas? This is a new 7.1.3 install, not an upgrade from 5.1.3.<br>
<br>
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