anyone else have issues logging into this? I'm now getting java style login + the normal login and my user / pwd no longer works.<div><br></div><div>Cisco must be trying something new?</div><div><br></div><div>Scott<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Cristobal Priego <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cristobalpriego@gmail.com">cristobalpriego@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Quick video on new Cisco Licensing Model<br><br><a href="https://www.myciscocommunity.com/videos/4524" target="_blank">https://www.myciscocommunity.com/videos/4524</a><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/3/8 Scott Voll <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>></span><div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">And for an enterprise it also comes down to support. if they have a staffer to take care of CM they can get a VAR to take over in case they leave. if it's open source it's a little harder to get someone to come in and support it.<div>
<br></div><div>just my 2 cents.</div><div><br></div><div><font color="#888888">Scott</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Jason Aarons (US) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@us.didata.com" target="_blank">jason.aarons@us.didata.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">With experience you learn building a fence from pieces usually costs<br>
more than buying the sections pre-built or getting the whole fence from<br>
a professional fence builder/installer. Buying a service or commercial<br>
off the shelf application with support usually has a fixed price.<br>
<br>
Can tell you how many self-developed application deployments have been<br>
huge money pits..Siebel is the first that comes to mind...Salesforce as<br>
a service is so much better. Risk is also a large factor for most<br>
enterprises. They tend to be late adopters to avoid any risk.<br>
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</div><div><div></div><div>Hi,<br>
> I'm not fully versed with open source and how it works, but is it<br>
possible that someone from the community can interject malicious code? I<br>
mean, I would gather that it wouldn't be in there long, but if it's like<br>
wikipedia, can't someone put in code that "phones home" and do some<br>
damage before someone retracts it?<br>
<br>
no - too many eye are on the submission process.<br>
<br>
the funny thing is, even though open source code is fully open<br>
and readable, more people find nice bugs in the closed proporietary<br>
vendor<br>
code. (sure, some projects have been whacked...but well managed ones<br>
tend to not have had such issues)<br>
<br>
there seems ot be some kind of funny knee-jerk reaction and mistrust<br>
of OpenSource code...a LOT of Cisco (and Juniper etc) modern kit if<br>
build with a large base of Open Source code running at the lower levels.<br>
<br>
A company (be it small, medium or FTSE/NASDAQ 100 etc) would be foolish<br>
to ignore Open Source or just discount it as worthless.<br>
<br>
*IF* an OpenSource tool can do the job as well as some commercial<br>
vendors<br>
product then why not? (*)<br>
<br>
alan<br>
<br>
* the answer is generally 'support'. If you've got the skill to deal<br>
with<br>
it and understand why it goes wrong (**) in house then you are sorted<br>
<br>
** plenty of expensive non Open Source software goes wrong too...and<br>
needs<br>
local skills or a lot of time spent calling the TAC/vendor ;-)<br>
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