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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Calling party transformations
seem like a good solution if the carrier is actually accepting the caller-id
you send.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Norton<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] "Internal" Caller ID<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Yup - that's what I was alluding to in my message. I think it's
because the trunks don't support unicode, but the ip phones do. So basically,
you can make all your ASCII names be the corporate name.<br>
<br>
Issue with that is, what other devices use ASCII? Analog lines? PRI-to-PRI
onnet gateway? wireless phones?<br>
<br>
I'm hesitant to deploy that solution in the event it makes something else down
the line 'break'.<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Mike Norton" <mikenorton@pwsd76.ab.ca><br>
To: "george hendrix" <george.hendrix@l-3com.com>, "Lelio
Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:12:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] "Internal" Caller ID<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hmmm, interesting. I’m on
6.1.4... turns out, if I set the “Display (Internal Caller ID)” and the “ASCII
Display (Internal Caller ID)” to be two different things, then the non-ASCII
one gets sent for internal calls and the ASCII one gets sent for external
calls. Handy.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>But it still doesn’t explain why
the page lies about it being “internal” when clearly it is not.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>-- </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Mike Norton</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I.T. Support</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Peace Wapiti School Division No.
76</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Helpdesk: 780-831-3080</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Direct: 780-831-3076</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> george.hendrix@l-3com.com [mailto:george.hendrix@l-3com.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi; Norton, Mike<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] "Internal" Caller ID</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>There is an ASCII field CID in
version 7.1. These are the fields in 7.1.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Alerting Name</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>ASCII Alerting Name</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Display (Internal Caller ID)</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>ASCII Display (Internal Caller
ID)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The field description states devices
that do not support Unicode (internationalized) characters display the content
of the ASCII field.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Bill Hendrix</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";
color:red'><img width=234 height=68 id="_x0000_i1029"
src="cid:image001.jpg@01CAC50A.522C24D0"
alt="STRATIS - Horizontal with Tag line"></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:george.hendrix@l-3com.com" target="_blank">george.hendrix@l-3com.com</a></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>W:
813-281-3109 C: 813-205-0979</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>STRATIS Service
Desk: 1-800-871-9983</span><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Norton<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] "Internal" Caller ID</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Mike, I think you hit the nail
on the head. What happens in Canada is slightly different. The help pages are
for US characteristics. Case in point, we could really use a Calling Name
Display Mask that is set on all outbound calls, but there is no field like
that.<br>
<br>
I've heard through the grape vine that with v7/8 there is an ASCII field that
is actually sent out instead of the normal one. <br>
<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Mike Norton" <mikenorton@pwsd76.ab.ca><br>
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:43:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] "Internal" Caller ID</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>This is not really a problem per
se (I actually enjoy the functionality), just a riddle that has always bugged
me. Does anyone know why on the settings page for a DN, there is “Internal
Caller ID,” but there’s actually nothing “internal” about this field at all?
CUCM *does* send this supposedly-“internal” text out my MGCP gateways to the
PSTN provider where it ultimately *does* end up on the external callee’s
display. The description for the “Internal Caller ID” even says that it’s for
internal calls… but it lies. Yes I am classifying the calls as Off-Net, but it
doesn’t seem to make a difference.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>(FYI – Here in Canada, the PSTN
providers tend to accept display name the entire way through a call path,
unlike in the U.S. where my understanding is they typically only accept the
number and then do their own database look-up to get a name.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Maybe the DN settings page was
translated from some other language and “internal” didn’t come across right? Or
maybe I have some obscure service parameter set that I don’t know about?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Mike Norton<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I.T. Support<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Peace Wapiti School Division No.
76<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Helpdesk: 780-831-3080<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Direct: 780-831-3076<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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