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Nope, we average around 12 phones per switch. we have one switch per
engineer. 'strategic' phones, like main desk phone, remains powered
from the switch so all POE is not removed.<br>
<br>
On Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:21:19 PM, Matthew Ballard
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mballard@otis.edu"><mballard@otis.edu></a> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Is
that with just one phone connected per switch? If so, I’m
guessing the main reason you are getting that much savings from just
one phone
is that the switch is probably able to shutdown the PoE components of
the
switch once the last PoE device is shutdown on the switch. I would
think that
shutting down one phone out of 2 or more won’t yield anywhere close to
that
much power savings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Matthew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Wes
Sisk<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fuermann, Jason<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>; Jamie Weatherhead<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 7940 Power Save Mode<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We attached a Kill-A-Watt to the switch powering
phones in
an engineers cube. When the EEM script triggers switch power
consumption
drops by ~100W. x 15 engineers in our area that is turning off 15x100w
bulbs for 12 hours at a time. The major impediment with that approach
is
the phones are hard down and do not respond to user input. <br>
<br>
A solution that that provides similar level of power consumption while
enabling
user intervention would be best of both worlds. Save power, save on
cooling, save backlights, extremely nominal user impact = win.<br>
<br>
/Wes<br>
<br>
On Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:50:53 PM, Fuermann, Jason <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:JBF005@shsu.edu"><JBF005@shsu.edu></a>
wrote:<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I
guess the question really is, what is the end goal of putting
the rest of your phones in power save some kind of power save mode?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> Chris
Ward
(chrward) [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:chrward@cisco.com">mailto:chrward@cisco.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 23, 2010 12:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fuermann, Jason; Ryan Ratliff (rratliff); Matthew Loraditch<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>;
Jamie Weatherhead<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] 7940 Power Save Mode</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Energywise
support is not yet available on our phones. You can
use Energywise to shutdown switchports, but not put the phones to
sleep… YET.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">When
energywise is supported on the phones, it will have the
ability to put them into a deep-sleep mode. It will however not be
supported on
the 7940/60s.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">+Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Fuermann, Jason<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fuermann, Jason; Ryan Ratliff (rratliff); Matthew Loraditch<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>;
Jamie Weatherhead<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 7940 Power Save Mode</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Sorry,
I was thinking of EnergyWise, not EEM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Fuermann, Jason<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Ryan Ratliff'; Matthew Loraditch<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>;
Jamie Weatherhead<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 7940 Power Save Mode</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I’m
sure EEM has some interface a standard user could interact
with</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Ratliff<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew Loraditch<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>;
Jamie Weatherhead<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 7940 Power Save Mode</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">You telnet in to the switch and do a 'no shut'.
We
control the switches here in our cubes that power all of the phones.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: "Helvetica","sans-serif";">-Ryan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mar 23, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Matthew Loraditch
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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class="apple-style-span"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">How
does that work if you need to work late or come in on off
hours ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";">Matthew
Loraditch, CCNA, CCDA</span></b><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";"><br>
1965 Greenspring Drive</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
class="apple-converted-space"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> </span></span><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wes Sisk<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday,
March 23,
2010 10:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Matthew Ballard<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>;
Jamie
Weatherhead<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[cisco-voip]
7940 Power Save Mode</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";">We
implement an alternate powersave method
on the phones at our desks. We use EEM script on switch to shutdown
power to
all non-critical phones outside business hours. EEM script is
available
in the EEM script repository on<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://Cisco.com">Cisco.com</a>.<br>
<br>
/Wes<br>
<br>
On Monday, March 22, 2010 12:48:36 PM, Matthew Ballard<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mballard@otis.edu"><mballard@otis.edu></a><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The
only reason the 7970 would need a power save mode is to turn
off the backlight. Since the 7940 doesn’t have a backlight, a power
save
mode would save little to no power anyways.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Matthew
Ballard</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
class="apple-converted-space"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> </span></span><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Jamie Weatherhead<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, March
22,
2010 9:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[cisco-voip]
7940
Power Save Mode</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";">Afternoon
all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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it at all possible to set a 7940 phone to power save mode?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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am able to achieve this for a 7970 phone by adjusting the ‘Display Idle
Timeout’ setting on the phone device configuration page. However, the
7940
phone doesn’t appear to have these settings as seen below:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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