<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Brian D. Browne <brianb@ct2k.com><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> nortel-list@tgrace.com<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> francois.lasalle@stratosglobal.com; afeinberg@hersheypa.com; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tue, April 6, 2010 2:00:46 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Nortel-list] international dialing<br></font><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Finally posting after much anguish over this
problem...<br><br>Well folks, after more than a week of of online research into this problem of the Meridian 1 mysteriously stripping the digits "011" from international calls, I found this post from Al Feinberg (of the Nortel-List) describing the very same problem I have been experiencing. Thank God for the posts below which allows me to put this problem to rest. I have come to the conclusion that the problem, really is in the way that Nortel implemented NI2 on the Meridian 1. My post is going to be a it long, but please bear with me.... a bit. I have seen a significant number of people (in a number of forums ie Tek-Tips, PBX info, and even in the Cisco VOIP mailing list posting on this very problem)<br><br>As described in detail by Al Feinberg( below), the problem is that with an ISDN PRI circuit programmed for
NI2 the M1 mysteriously strips out the "011" on out going international calls. To keep things simple, I bypassed the NARS/BARS software on the Meridian 1 by dialing an access code (7180) to directly access the route. I programmed the call type on the PRI route as NATL (after first trying ctyp - unkwn) and made three types of calls. The first two 1-305-679-2118 and 679-2118 went through flawlessly. When I dialed 011-55-44-6792118 or whatever number I dial with a 011 prefix, the system would output the number without the 011.<br><br>This was first encountered on a CS1000 rls 4.0 system at a customer of mine. Previously the customer was using ISIG (nortel's implementation of QSIG), but after the carrier did an upgrade of their softwitch (maker unkown), their QSIG wouldn't work with Nortel's ISIG. (the D-channel wouldn't even come up), so we moved to NI2. With NI2, the D-channel synched up very quickly and we are able to make 1+ and local calls without any
problems but the 011 calls fail due to the "011" digit
stripping.<br><br>I replicated the problem back in my lab by setting up an CS1000 Opt.11 C rls 3.4 with two TMDI cards in it. One went to a cisco 3640 running CME (Call Manager Express) programmed for NI2 with a dial peer configured to terminate on an FXS port with 0116792118 and the other PRI went to an Avaya definity GS3 PBX also configure for NI2.<br><br>The call setup messages from the meridian 1 to both switches (Cisco and Avaya) show that the "011" being stripped. Since I was directly accessing the route, and there was no NARs/BARS DMI to complicate things, I can only conclude that the problem is with the Nortel switch. What re-inforces this point of view also, is the fact that I could take the identical circuit from the cisco 3640 gateway (which was previously connected to the Nortel switch) and connect it to the Avaya switch (without altering any programming, and it should be noted that I used official documents from both Cisco and Avaya's
interoperability labs to setup the connections) and the Avaya switch could call the Cisco
011556792118 number.<br><br>Below is my programming and the output of my Nortel D-channel messaging. This is with the call type configured as unknwn in the RDB. Similar results were obtained with the Call type configured as NATL. Dchannel 3 went to the Avaya and D-Channel 16 went to the Cisco 3640. Output shown is for the calls to the Avaya. Route access code is 7180. Note that the Call detail record shows the number that was dialed, while the D-channel msgo shows what the M1 actually dials out in the initial address message (IAM).<br><br><font style="font-style: italic;" size="2">TYPE RDB <br>CUST 00 <br>DMOD <br>ROUT 25 <br>DES PRICARD6<br>TKTP TIE <br>NPID_TBL_NUM 0<br>ESN NO <br>RPA NO <br>CNVT NO <br>SAT NO <br>RCLS EXT <br>VTRK NO <br>DTRK YES <br>BRIP NO <br>DGTP PRI <br>ISDN YES <br> MODE PRA <br> IFC NI2 <br>
SBN NO<br> NCNA YES <br> NCRD YES <br> CHTY BCH <br> CTYP UKWN<br> INAC NO <br> CPFXS YES <br> CPUB OFF <br> DAPC NO <br> BCOT 0 <br> INTC NO <br>DSEL VOD <br>PTYP PRI <br>AUTO YES <br>ACMP NO <br>DNIS NO <br>IANI NO <br>ICOG IAO <br>SRCH LIN <br>TRMB NO <br>STEP <br>ACOD 7180<br>TCPP NO <br>PII NO <br>TARG 01 <br>CLEN 1 <br>BILN NO<br>OABS <br>INST <br>ANTK <br>SIGO STD <br>MFC NO<br>ICIS YES<br>OGIS YES<br>PTUT 0 <br>TIMR ICF 512 <br> OGF 512 <br> EOD 13952 <br> NRD 10112 <br> DDL 70 <br> ODT 4096 <br> RGV 640
<br> GTO 896 <br> GTI 896 <br> SFB 3 <br> NBS 2048 <br> NBL 4096 <br> TFD 0 <br>DTD NO <br>SCDT NO <br>2 DT NO <br>DRNG NO <br>CDR YES <br>INC YES <br>LAST YES <br>TTA YES <br>ABAN YES <br>CDRB YES <br>QREC YES <br>OAL YES <br>AIA YES <br>OAN NO <br>OPD YES <br>NDP EXC 0 <br>CDRX NO <br>NATL YES <br>SSL <br>CFWR NO <br>IDOP NO <br>MUS NO <br>PANS YES <br>FRL 0 0 <br>FRL 1 0 <br>FRL 2 0 <br>FRL 3 0 <br>FRL 4 0 <br>FRL 5 0 <br>FRL 6 0 <br>FRL 7 0 <br>TTBL 0 <br>ATAN NO <br>PLEV 2 <br>OPR NO <br>ALRM NO <br>ART 0 <br>SGRP 0 <br>CCBA NO <br>AACR NO</font><br><font
size="2"><br>ADAN DCH 3 <br> CTYP TMDI <br> CARD 06 <br> PORT 1 <br> DES pricard6<br> USR PRI <br> DCHL 6 <br> OTBF 32 <br> PARM RS232 DTE <br> DRAT 64KC<br> CLOK EXT <br> IFC NI2 <br> ISDN_MCNT 300 <br> CLID OPT0<br> CO_TYPE STD<br> SIDE USR <br> CNEG 1 <br> RLS ID **<br> RCAP COLP <br> OVLR NO<br> OVLS NO<br> T310 120 <br> T200 3 <br> T203 10 <br> N200 3 <br> N201 260 <br> K 7 <br> BSRV NO <br><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;">ADAN DCH 16 </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> CTYP TMDI </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> CARD 08 </span><br
style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> PORT 1 </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> DES OPT11PRITEST</span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> USR PRI </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> DCHL 8 </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> OTBF 32 </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> PARM RS232 DTE </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> DRAT 64KC</span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> CLOK EXT </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> IFC NI2 </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> ISDN_MCNT 300 </span><br style="font-style:
italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> CLID OPT0</span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> CO_TYPE STD</span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> SIDE USR </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> CNEG 1 </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> RLS ID **</span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> RCAP COLP </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> OVLR NO</span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> OVLS NO</span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> T310 120 </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> T200 3 </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> T203 10
</span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> N200 3 </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> N201 260 </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> K 7 </span><br style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"> BSRV NO </span></font><br><font style="font-style: italic;" size="2"><br>DCH 3 UIPE_OMSG CC_SETUP_REQ REF 0000002F CH 6 23 TOD 13:22:32 CK 0B9782F4 <br>PROGRESS: ORIGINATING END IS NOT ISDN <br>CALLING #:5502 NUM PLAN: PRIVATE TON: UNKNOWN <br>CALLED #:<span style="font-weight: bold;">6792118</span> NUM PLAN: PRIVATE TON: UNKNOWN <br><br>DCH 3 UIPE_IMSG CC_PROCEED_IND REF 0000002F CH 6 23 TOD 13:22:32 CK 0B978373 <br><br>DCH 3 UIPE_IMSG CC_SETUP_CONF REF 0000002F CH 6 23 TOD 13:22:48 CK 0B97F6EF
<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">N 056 00 5502 A025023 03/23 13:22:48 00:00:02.0 71806792118 </span> <br> &
<br> & 000 01 <br><br>DCH 3 UIPE_IMSG CC_DISC_IND REF 0000002F CH 6 23 TOD 13:22:50 CK 0B98089E <br>CAUSE: #16 - NORMAL CALL CLEARING<br><br>DCH 3 UIPE_OMSG CC_RELEASE_REQ REF 0000002F CH 6 23 TOD 13:22:50 CK 0B9808A6 <br><br>DCH 3 UIPE_IMSG CC_RELEASE_CONF REF 0000002F CH 6 23 TOD 13:22:50 CK 0B9808FF <br><br>DCH 3 UIPE_OMSG CC_SETUP_REQ REF 00000030 CH 6 23 TOD 13:23:36 CK 0B996F43 <br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">N 057 00
5502 T025023 03/23 13:23:36 00:00:00.0 71800115966962611738 </span> <br> & <br> & 000
01 <br>PROGRESS: ORIGINATING END IS NOT ISDN <br>CALLING #:5502 NUM PLAN: PRIVATE TON: UNKNOWN <br>CALLED #:<span style="font-weight: bold;">5966962611738</span> NUM PLAN: PRIVATE TON: INTL <br><br>DCH 3 UIPE_IMSG CC_PROCEED_IND REF 00000030 CH 6 23 TOD 13:23:36 CK 0B996FC5 <br><br>DCH 3 UIPE_IMSG CC_DISC_IND REF 00000030 CH 6 23 TOD 13:23:36 CK 0B996FD2 <br>CAUSE: #17 - USER BUSY <br><br>DCH 3 UIPE_OMSG CC_RELEASE_REQ REF 00000030 CH 6 23 TOD 13:23:36 CK 0B996FDA <br><br>DCH 3 UIPE_IMSG CC_RELEASE_CONF REF 00000030 CH 6 23 TOD 13:23:36 CK 0B997031 <br><br>DCH 3 UIPE_OMSG CC_SETUP_REQ REF 00000031 CH 6 23 TOD 13:24:08 CK 0B9A6B6C <br>PROGRESS:
ORIGINATING END IS NOT ISDN <br>CALLING #:5502 NUM PLAN: PRIVATE TON: UNKNOWN <br>CALLED #:<span style="font-weight: bold;">13056792118</span> NUM PLAN: PRIVATE TON: UNKNOWN <br><br>DCH 3 UIPE_IMSG CC_PROCEED_IND REF 00000031 CH 6 23 TOD 13:24:08 CK 0B9A6BF6 <br><br>DCH 3 UIPE_IMSG CC_SETUP_CONF REF 00000031 CH 6 23 TOD 13:24:10 CK 0B9A7F5E <br><br>DCH 3 UIPE_IMSG CC_DISC_IND REF 00000031 CH 6 23 TOD 13:24:14 CK 0B9A9D1E <br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">N 058 00 5502 A025023 03/23 13:24:11 00:00:04.0 718013056792118 </span>
<br> & <br> & 000
01 <br>CAUSE: #16 - NORMAL CALL CLEARING<br><br>DCH 3 UIPE_OMSG CC_RELEASE_REQ REF 00000031 CH 6 23 TOD 13:24:14 CK 0B9A9D27 <br><br>DCH 3 UIPE_IMSG CC_RELEASE_CONF REF 00000031 CH 6 23 TOD 13:24:14 CK 0B9A9DA9 </font><br><br>Below is the original post by Al Feinberg of the Nortel-list as well as a similar post from
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</style><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; line-height: 115%; color: black;">Sam Hodgeman</span></span> over at the Cisco-VOIP mailing list.<br><br>Thanks to all the posters and the responders for sharing your thoughts on this problem. Although, I am not over joyed with the final outcome, reading your posts has proven to be very instructive and helpful. Thanks again.<br><div> </div>Brian D. Browne<br>Inter-Caribbean Networking Solutions Ltd.<br>1-868-679-2118<br>1-868-679-2548<br>1-868-679-8919<br>brianb@ct2k.com<br>cns@ct2k.com<br><br><div>"Live long and prosper.....but do it with kindness and compassion" - Spock and Browne<div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Subject:
Re: [Nortel-list] international dialing</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">That's
weird that you say that.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">We
just left AT&T as our LD carrier and moved to Level 3.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">We
were told that because they use DMS250 switch for LD, they don't</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">support
NI2. Their local switch was Lucent 5ESS and does support NI2.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">We
also had trouble dialing internationally after we switched. The</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">carrier
didn't see 011, though we didn't strip it. I built a DMI to</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">insert
011 and added to the RDB and it worked. I still don't understand</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">where
the digits went.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Where
is the "type of number" because on the call trace, I do see</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">International,
but the 011 was gone.</span></p><span style="font-size: 10pt;"></span><span style="font-size: 10pt;"></span>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Thanks!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Al</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Al
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>Date:<span style="">
</span>05/14/2009 03:09 PM</span></p><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span></span>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>Subject:<span style="">
</span><span style=""> </span>Re: [Nortel-list] international
dialing</span></p><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""></span></span>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>Sent by:<span style="">
</span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:nortel-list-bounces@tgrace.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:nortel-list-bounces@tgrace.com"><span style="color: blue;">nortel-list-bounces@tgrace.com</span></a></span></p><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""></span></span><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I
seem to recall with NI2 (and maybe speficially with a DMS switch) that</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">if
you send the Type of Number as International there is no need to call</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">411.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I've
found it easier to change the Type of Number to Unknown and prefix</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">with
011. I've not done this on Nortel but have on Avaya and it works</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">like
a charm.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">On
Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:55 PM, <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:AFeinberg@hersheypa.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:AFeinberg@hersheypa.com"><span style="color: blue;">AFeinberg@hersheypa.com</span></a>> wrote:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>We just installed new Level 3 PRI's (legacy
wiltel)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>Getting carrier message, can't complete the
call.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>Traced call, we don't see the 011 intl code,
however the RLI doesn't</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">have</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>DMI assigned.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>DCH monitor only shows the phone number, not
the international code</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">011.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>We added a DMI table and assigned to the RLI
and successfully</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">completed</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>the</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>call.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>What else would strip the first three digits
if not a DMI table</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">assigned</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>to</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>the route list? We could do this on AT&T
last week with the same RLI.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>Thanks!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>Al</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>Al Feinberg</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>Telecommunications Analyst</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>Hershey Entertainment & Resorts</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>27 West Chocolate Avenue</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>Hershey, PA 17033</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>Telephone 717-508-1598</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>Fax 717-520-5785</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>Email: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:afeinberg@hersheypa.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:afeinberg@hersheypa.com"><span style="color: blue;">afeinberg@hersheypa.com</span></a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span style=""> </span>"Proudly Committed To Our Legacy of
Excellence"</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><br><span style="font-size: 10pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Post from Cisco-Voip mailing list describing the same problem of the Nortel M1 stripping 011 digits..</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><br><span style="font-size: 10pt;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;">
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</p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; line-height: 115%; color: black;">Hi all,</span></span><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; line-height: 115%; color: black;"><br>
<span class="apple-style-span">I am working on using Cisco 24xx IP-IADs connected
to PBX NI2 PRIs.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="apple-style-span">With NI2 on these particular PBXs - Nortel
Meridian - the user dials the</span><br>
<span class="apple-style-span">leading zero, but the PBX strips it out. Instead,
it includes a special</span><br>
<span class="apple-style-span">IE in the ISDN setup message of "Operator
Services Access Requested."</span><br>
<br>
<span class="apple-style-span">The usual debug ISDN q931 trace doesn't show any
sign of recognizing</span><br>
<span class="apple-style-span">this IE, nor of recognizing the call as anything
but ISDN/National.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="apple-style-span">Is there a different trace/debug parameter that
would show the</span><br>
<span class="apple-style-span">individual ISDN IEs? Assuming this IE is
recognized by the IOS, how does</span><br>
<span class="apple-style-span">one tell the box what to do with these calls? In
our case, most calls</span><br>
<span class="apple-style-span">are transformed into SIP calls directed to a
Broadsoft SIP gateway, but</span><br>
<span class="apple-style-span">I don't see how the IE is mapped to the SIP
message.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="apple-style-span">Any insight would be appreciated.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="apple-style-span">- Sam Hodgeman</span></span></p>
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