<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>Thanks. Just checked the feature navigator. It mentions SAF feature is available on VG224 platform releases.<br><br>But as I found out earlier, if SAF is not on the VG224 data sheet, it's not supported by TAC. :(<br><br>I could always try and use a gatekeeper as a fallback.<br><br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Chris Ward (chrward)" <chrward@cisco.com><br>To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca>, "Mike King" <me@mpking.com><br>Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:52:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] gatekeepers - when, why, how?<br><br>
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feature navigator says you are good, maybe you are in luck. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">+Chris</span></p>
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cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 12, 2010 1:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike King<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] gatekeepers - when, why, how?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">Thanks Mike. Definitely clears up the configuration steps and I'll
have to read up a bit more on whether a device should be a forwarder or a
client, but it still doesn't mention anything about supported devices. Last I
talked with the TAC, EIGRP routing was not supported on the VG224 (even stub,
although it's listed in the feature navigator), so if SAF is anything like
EIGRP (which it sounds like it is, I'm guessing the VG224 team might likely say
no to this as well. :(<br>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Mike King" <me@mpking.com><br>
To: "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 12:49:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] gatekeepers - when, why, how?<br>
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Lelio,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">Take a look at this, it might help a little:</span></p>
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<a href="http://www.cisco.rw/en/US/docs/ios/saf/configuration/guide/saf_cg.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.rw/en/US/docs/ios/saf/configuration/guide/saf_cg.pdf</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">hmmm, doesn't look like the VG224 supports this. :(</span></p>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">From: "Chris Ward (chrward)" <<a href="mailto:chrward@cisco.com" target="_blank">chrward@cisco.com</a>><br>
To: "Robert Kulagowski" <<a href="mailto:rkulagow@gmail.com" target="_blank">rkulagow@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>, "cisco-voip voyp list"
<<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 12:08:19 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] gatekeepers - when, why, how?<br>
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Try this:<br>
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<a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/8x/netstruc.html" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/8x/netstruc.html</a><br>
#wp1155951<br>
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It's from the SRND so it should be more descriptive.<br>
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+Chris<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Robert Kulagowski [mailto:<a href="mailto:rkulagow@gmail.com" target="_blank">rkulagow@gmail.com</a>] <br>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:17 AM<br>
To: Chris Ward (chrward)<br>
Cc: Lelio Fulgenzi; cisco-voip voyp list<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] gatekeepers - when, why, how?<br>
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On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Chris Ward (chrward)<br>
<<a href="mailto:chrward@cisco.com" target="_blank">chrward@cisco.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Well, that just means your UCMs can't join the SAF network. The SAF<br>
> forwarders and other IOS devices just need a 15.X IOS and they should<br>
be<br>
> able to participate.<br>
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Can you provide additional information on how this can be useful in a<br>
voice environment? Configurations, etc? The two links don't have<br>
much, and one basically just punts:<br>
<br>
"<br>
Q. I understand SAF can greatly simplify my voice-over-IP (VoIP)<br>
deployment. Where can I find more information on how to deploy SAF<br>
with my Unified Communications 8.0 application?<br>
A. Please contact the Voice Technology Group through your account<br>
representative or reseller for more information or visit<br>
<a href="http://www.cisco.com/go/saf" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/go/saf</a>.<br>
"<br>
<br>
Are you in the Voice Technology Group? Can we consider this a<br>
"contact"? :)</span></p>
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