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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The solution is to throw the fax machine away all other method are simply workarounds.. But since that is usually not option follow the posted work arounds..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dennis Heim<br>Network Voice Engineer<br>CDW Advanced Technology Services<br>11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225<br>Carmel, IN 46032<br><br>317.569.4255 Office<br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>317.569.4201 Fax<br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>317.694.6070 Cell<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:dennis.heim@cdw.com" title="mailto:dennis.heim@berbee.com">dennis.heim@cdw.com</a><br><a href="http://www.berbee.com/" title="http://www.berbee.com/">www.berbee.com</a></span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ahmed Elnagar<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> James Buchanan; Jeff Ruttman<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] What's the pro and con for ATA, compared to FXS<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>To disable a port on ATA go to the web page of the ATA and do the below:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>change the Cisco ATA EPID1orSID1 parameter value to 0 to disable the Phone 2 port. (To disable the Phone 1 port, you must change the EPID0orSID0 parameter value to 0.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best Regards;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Ahmed Elnagar<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Senior Network PS Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Mob: +2019-0016211<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <img border=0 width=63 height=63 id="Picture_x0020_0" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CAF0F2.306C3470" alt="ccie_voice_large.gif"><img border=0 width=63 height=63 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.jpg@01CAF0F2.306C3470" alt="ccvp_voice_large.gif"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James Buchanan<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:23 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jeff Ruttman; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] What's the pro and con for ATA, compared to FXS<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Well, I just usually add the second port which will have the same effect. I’m not sure on disabling either.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>James Buchanan </span></b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7E7E7E'>|</span><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'> Senior Network Engineer </span></b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7E7E7E'>|</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'> <b>Mid-Atlantic </b></span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7E7E7E'>|</span><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'> Presidio Networked Solutions <br>12 Cadillac Dr, Suite 130, Brentwood, TN 37027 </span></b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7E7E7E'>|</span><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7E7E7E'><a href="bdorn@presidio.com">jbuchanan@presidio.com</a><br></span></b><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>D: 615-866-5729</span></b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'> </span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7E7E7E'>|</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'> </span><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7E7E7E'><a href="http://www.presidio.com">www.presidio.com</a></span></b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <</span><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7E7E7E'><a href="http://www.presidio.com">http://www.presidio.com</a></span></b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>CCIE #25863, Voice</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Ruttman<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] What's the pro and con for ATA, compared to FXS<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>How do you disable an unused port on an ATA?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>I don't know that we've experienced calls dropping, but you are right that an unused port does try to connect to CM and at the least generates lots of fails in the event logs. I go ahead and add the second port into CM, so it can register, and I just don't configure a line on it. This stops the error messages and perhaps stops calls dropping as you describe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>I only have experience with ATAs and largely they've been OK. Most problems have been fixed by using 9600 or 14400 baud rates on fax machines, and I think we also had to disable Super G3 on a couple newer fax/copiers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>jeff<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>polo person<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> junks2you@gmail.com; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] What's the pro and con for ATA, compared to FXS</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>My experience of ATA's and faxes is not good. We have a combination of faxes + VG224 and faxes + ATA and I only seem to get problems with the ATA's. Quite often they will get their knickers in a twist and stop giving dial tone, and a power off / on sorts them out and they will then work again for a few months. Other times I get problems with fax transmission, ranging from failed sending / receiving to a fax being sent and received ok, but the sending fax machine reports it didn't get delivered so it proceeds to send it again...and again...and again... (very frustrating for the recipient!) The solution to this one was to drop the speed of fax transmission down to 14400 and this cured the problem.<br> <br>One thing to be wary of is that if the second ATA port is not being used, you must disable it. If you don't you will get calls dropping as the ATA will reset occasionally when the second port tries to talk to the CM, but as it isnt configured it doesent get very far. If a call is in progress on port 1 at the time it will get dropped.<br> <br>Faxes on our VG224's seem to work on the main with very few problems (mostly fax passthrough, some fax relay). We have CM 6.1.3.something_odd..... and are en-route to CM7 them CM8 over the course of this year. <br> <br>Cheers<br> <br>Simon<br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:59:15 +0800<br>From: <a href="mailto:junks2you@gmail.com">junks2you@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>Subject: [cisco-voip] What's the pro and con for ATA, compared to FXS<br><br>Hi Guys,<br><br>Can anyone explain to me what the pros and cons of ATA? 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