It seems to me that Cisco really messed up with this product. They have named 2 products with very, very similar names and very similar functions. This confusion I'm sure is farther than just what we see here on this list.<br>
<br>Here is what I know about:<br><br>Cisco Mobile 8.0 for iPhone:<br>*SIP phone for iPhone, registers via wifi<br>*routes voice traffic via IP<br><br>CUMA-client for iPhone, (Cisco Mobile)<br>*similar products for windows mobile, nokia and blackberry<br>
*requires cuma server<br>*does not route voice traffic via IP (calls route via PSTN)<br>*proprietary call control/information via SSL IP<br><br>The 2 products are a bit different in how they do what they do and take a much different approach in how they do it.<br>
<br>CUMA has some pretty steep requirements as far as network, CUCM setup, directory requirements and deployment. The Cisco Mobile 8.0 app has none of these requirements.<br><br>Its better to think of Cisco Mobile 8.0 as Cisco Mobile lite.<br>
<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com">rratliff@cisco.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap: break-word;">The 8.0 iPhone client doesn't know how to use a CUMA server as it only talks to CUCM directly.<div>It does require you be wi-fi connected (either inside the network or using the vpn client).</div>
<div><br></div><div>I don't support this product so have not been paying the closest attention but the FAQ looks pretty decent.</div><div><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cumc/cisco_mobile/iPhone/8_0/FAQs/English/Cisco_Mobile_8_chapter1.html" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cumc/cisco_mobile/iPhone/8_0/FAQs/English/Cisco_Mobile_8_chapter1.html</a></div>
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<br><div><div>On May 17, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Ted Nugent wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Correct me if i'm wrong and give me links if I am please. But with Cisco Mobile for the IPhone you don't need a server for On Premise dualmode but once you get out of 802.11x and go off prem you still do need CUMA to take advantage of everything you had in dual mode range (DVO, Presence, CUMC etc)... Correct? I have seen a ton of conflicting information about this but most everything that I have read supports that.... otherwise there appears to be magical link that gets you back when your off prem and I would like know how to conjure it...</div>
<div><br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Bill <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bill@hitechconnection.net" target="_blank">bill@hitechconnection.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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the Cisco Mobile for the Iphone you don’t need the server. So my question
still stands. I don’t like talking to my account team. They just want to
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 17, 2010 8:55 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Bill<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> 'cisco-voip voyp list'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco
Mobile 8.0 / CUMA</span></font></p>
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is the client, CUMA is the server. You should talk to your account team
for roadmap questions, or look for details with the release of the 8.0 clients
on other platforms.</span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">So is Cisco Mobile the replacement for CUMA? Is CUMA EOL? If
it is the replacement is there any roadmap for the other phones such as windows
mobile and crackberries?</span></font></p>
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