SME is basically a specialized CUCM. CUSP is a module that only does SIP signaling and manipulation, routing, etc.<br><br>With SME you can still integrate things like a corporate directory, web services, things like IME, SAF, etc. It uses a GUI, has full monitoring and SNMP support.<br>
<br>CUSP is just signaling - and even then normally just the INVITE and not any mid-call signals that will go between the devices unless record route is on. It's basically a SIP gatekeeper, although it hasn't implemented bandwidth limitations yet, nor does it process registrations.<br>
<br>-nick<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Marty van de Veerdonk <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marty@voiceidentity.nl">marty@voiceidentity.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">But what is the difference then between SME and CUSP (SIP Proxy)?<br>CUSP is also positioned as centralized SIP "gatekeeper".<span><br>
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</div>Verzonden: Zondag 16 mei 2010 02:06:24<br>Onderwerp: Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco SME<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">
<div>SME is not meant to replace CUBE. SME is Cisco's reply to Kamailio (former OpenSER) and other centralized SIP routers. In the big SIP world, large SIP clients / providers typically have a SIP routing engine sitting in the center of their network. It is SIP's "Gatekeeper" equivalent and messaging mediator for all SIP call agents to include IP PBX and SBCs (CUBEs in Cisco world). RTP will not pass through it, only SIP messaging. What it does is presents a familiar GUI and way of doing things. If you have the ability to did deep into the SIP protocol and build a server on Solaris or LINUX, Kamailio is at least 100x more powerful and flexible. If you are not LINUX or Solaris smart and are not a SIP protocol level guy or gal, SME is most definitely a better path to take for centralized SIP CAC, message normalization, call
reporting, and troubleshooting. If this is SP level deployment, there are a ton of Kamailio programs who can come in a set it all up. </div>
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<div>What I would like to know, Is will this support the generation of early offer messaging without <span>MTP</span> support? This is feature is keeping Cisco out of the big SIP world. I know this is on the road map, but how late to the party will they show? </div>
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<div><br>--- On <b>Sat, 5/15/10, Nick Matthews <i><<a href="mailto:matthnick@gmail.com" target="_blank">matthnick@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br></div>
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To: "Ahmed Elnagar" <<a href="mailto:ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com" target="_blank">ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com</a>><br>Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 5:28 PM<br><br>
<div>CUBE = external<br><br>SME = internal<br><br>So even if you use SME to aggregate your internal dial plan and want to hook it up to a SIP trunk, you would still use a CUBE in front of your SME. SME is designed for larger deployments where dial plan aggregation is important. To a degree you can aggregate a dial plan on CUBE as well, but it is not as scalable or easy to manage. <br>
<br>To further confuse you, the following products can all do some sort of dial plan aggregation: CUSP, SIP proxy on CUPS, CUCM, SME, CUBE, and GK. <br><br><br>-nick<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Ahmed Elnagar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="http://us.mc504.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a href="http://us.mc504.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a href="http://us.mc504.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Aman Chugh<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 15, 2010 8:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> Bill<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip voyp list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco SME</span></p></div>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class="MsoNormal">It's basically just CUCM without IP phones registered. You use it as a point of centralized call routing (multiple CUCM clusters trunk to it, traditional PBX's via a gateway trunk to it, etc.). IME can be deployed centrally off of SME or off of a single CUCM 8 cluster.<br>
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