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class=380340812-15062010>Hey thanks everyone!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=380340812-15062010>I prefer the loopback also if for no other
reason for consistency sake as all the other GWs we have are using
loopbacks. I can try Mr. Nugent's bind statement suggestion if need
be. I do wonder though how all our existing sites use loopback but yet
there are no bind statements anywhere as suggested by Ted. Something about
the implementation of our existing GWs (all pre-date me) must have
governed the use of loopbacks, something I'm doing
differently.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=380340812-15062010>Most of our sites have the voice router with a gig
connection to a switch, a serial connection to the home office, maybe an FXO
connection, and the loopback configured--really just like the router I'm
currently working on. Could be that it would have used the loopback but
since call manager couldn't see it (can't ping it from CM anyway) it used the
gig port instead...though why the loopback isn't available, not sure yet.
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=380340812-15062010>Thanks again,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=380340812-15062010>jeff</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Lelio
Fulgenzi<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 14, 2010 3:32 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Go0se<BR><B>Cc:</B> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[cisco-voip] GW IP Address in CCM<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">The other
good thing is that with a loop back, you can relocate a server/router or respond
to a network change request by your networking team with little impact.<BR><BR>I
think there are quite a few advantages that's for
sure.<BR><BR><BR><BR>---<BR>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Senior Analyst (CCS) *
University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<BR>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519)
767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<BR>Cooking
with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <BR>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message
-----<BR>From: "Go0se" <me@go0se.com><BR>To: "Lelio Fulgenzi"
<lelio@uoguelph.ca>, "Dennis Heim" <Dennis.Heim@cdw.com><BR>Cc:
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR>Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:57:55 PM GMT -05:00
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cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Lelio Fulgenzi<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 14, 2010 2:43
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Dennis Heim<BR><B>Cc:</B>
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip] GW IP Address in
CCM</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Correct.
I use loopbacks when I configure redundancy....<BR><BR>---<BR>Lelio Fulgenzi,
B.A.<BR>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G
2W1<BR>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<BR>Cooking
with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <BR>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message
-----<BR>From: "Dennis Heim" <Dennis.Heim@cdw.com><BR>To: "Lelio Fulgenzi"
<lelio@uoguelph.ca>, "Ted Nugent" <tednugent73@gmail.com><BR>Cc:
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR>Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:20:37 PM GMT -05:00
US/Canada Eastern<BR>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] GW IP Address in
CCM<BR><BR><BR></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Loopbacks
are only effective if you have more than 1 physical interface connected to the
network. I have seen too many people think additional redundancy is provided
simply by using loopback even though there is only one network link to the
router.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Dennis
Heim<BR>Network Voice Engineer<BR>CDW Advanced Technology
Services<BR>11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225<BR>Carmel, IN
46032<BR><BR>317.569.4255 Office<BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">317.569.4201
Fax<BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">317.694.6070
Cell</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P>
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target=_blank>dennis.heim@cdw.com</A><BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><A
href="http://www.cdw.com/content/solutions/unified-communications/"
target=_blank>cdw.com/content/solutions/unified-communications/</A></SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Lelio Fulgenzi<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 14, 2010 3:12
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Ted Nugent<BR><B>Cc:</B>
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip] GW IP Address in
CCM</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">I
usually go with loop backs. Remember, you need to have routing enabled though on
the voice gateway so your loopbacks get advertised properly. Seems silly, but I
don't think routing is turned on by
default.<BR><BR>Lelio<BR><BR><BR>---<BR>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Senior Analyst
(CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<BR>(519) 824-4120 x56354
(519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<BR>Cooking
with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <BR>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message
-----<BR>From: "Ted Nugent" <tednugent73@gmail.com><BR>To: "Jeff Ruttman"
<ruttmanj@carewisc.org><BR>Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR>Sent: Monday,
June 14, 2010 3:02:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<BR>Subject: Re:
[cisco-voip] GW IP Address in CCM</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">my
experience has been that it will pick the hard interface that is connected
closest to CM (Serial on WAN and ethernet on LAN)</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">I
typically lock in the interface that I prefer with the mgcp bind commands to
make certain i know where its getting bound</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">mgcp
bind control source-interface FastEthernet0/1<BR>mgcp bind media
source-interface FastEthernet0/1</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">HTH
Ted</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">On
Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Jeff Ruttman <<A
href="mailto:ruttmanj@carewisc.org" target=_blank>ruttmanj@carewisc.org</A>>
wrote:</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I have
a voice router configured, and in CCM an MGCP GW configured. I put the
router on the LAN and all is well except CCM can't see the loopback
interface, so the IP address on the CCM GW is the gig interface that is
connecting the router to the network. Otherwise it appears that CCM did
its MGCP config on the router just fine. Turns out CCM can't ping the
loopback interface on the router.</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I have
the router connected ad hoc, not even on the specific network where it WILL be
connected once in production. I assume there is something about the
networking here that is preventing CCM from seeing the loopback as I'm
currently setup. My questions:</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">When a
newly configed CCM GW and voice router first meet, does CCM look for a loopback
by default? And since it couldn't find one on the voice router, it chose
the gig interface instead?</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">If I
were to put the router on the proper network with the final IP address on the
gig interface, and assuming the loopback interface is indeed now available to
CCM, will it then use the loopback IP, or will I have to do something to make
that happen.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Loopback
interface on router is Up Up.</SPAN><SPAN
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