<html><head><base href="x-msg://4/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">System > Security Profile > SIP Trunk Security Profile.<div><br></div><div><img id="692f67f5-221e-475b-9331-53cd1da86ef5" height="525" width="577" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:D6D3025B-C5D2-4D37-B150-044E74837A86"></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jul 16, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Ahmed Abd EL-Rahman wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Dear Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> Could you please clarify where exactly the “</span>"Accept Unsolicited Notification" box of the SIP Trunk Profile”<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">as I can’t find this option in the sip trunk page or in the Standard Sip Profile page.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Please help as I’m suffering from the DTMF problem and I’m using CUCM 7.1(3) with a sip trunk to my VGW which communicates with the Provider through a sip trunk on the VGW.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Best Regards<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Ahmed Abd EL-Rahman</span></b><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(148, 138, 84); "><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Paul van den IJssel<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 16, 2010 11:09 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>"<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] SIP Trunk from ISP DTMF issue<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">We got it to work! I checked the "Accept Unsolicited Notification" box of the SIP Trunk Profile, and now DTMF is working fine on my in- and outbound calls.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Now here's the next challange.. SIP Trunk is in a region running G.711. IP Phone A and B are using G.711, IP Phone C and D are using G.729. All devices have a MRGL containing both MTP (G.711) and CFB (G.711). Setting up a conf call to the G.711 phones is working fine. But when I try to setup a conf call to phone A and B, or A and C. The G.729 call gets terminated. It should use the CFB and MTP just as it whould with a normal H.323 or MGCP gateway connected, right?<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Paul<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">2010/7/15 Nick Matthews <<a href="mailto:matthnick@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">matthnick@gmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">You really have to check the DTMF settings on every hop. I thought<br>there was a CUE involved also?<br><br>If you're not seeing the 101 PT in the SDP in the 200 OK you need to<br>check the INVITE to see what PT is being advertised, and if it's being<br>advertised at all.<br><br>SIP INFO and NOTIFY are not generally widely used. I would work with<br>getting 2833 to work first.<br><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136); "><br>-nick</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Paul van den IJssel <<a href="mailto:pijssel@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">pijssel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Hi all,<br>><br>><br>><br>> Here is some aditional information from the ISP side. they are using a<br>> Genband MSX release 4.3m6 and we have the following options for DTMF<br>> transmission:<br>><br>><br>><br>> SIP NOTIFY<br>><br>> SIP INFO<br>><br>> RFC2833 (payload type 101)<br>><br>><br>><br>> When we send DTMF to the CCM with SIP NOTIFY we see a 403 Forbidden comming<br>> back from the CCM.<br>><br>><br>><br>> One other thing i noticed is that when we place a inbound call to the CCM<br>> --> IVR (using RFC2833) the 200OK doesen't contain a media type 101<br>> (rfc2833), and if i'm correct the CCM was configured for RFC2833 at that<br>> point. If the SBC doesen't receive the correct media type in the 200OK it<br>> assumes that there is no support for RFC2833 and it will fallback to inband<br>> DTMF tones in the audio stream.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Could this have something to do with the DTMF transmission between the CCM<br>> and unity express? Is the DTMF transmitted in the siggnaling between the CCM<br>> and the unity express? Or is it using RTP payload like RFC2833 does?<br>><br>><br>><br>> Here also a brief description of our setup:<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> [ISDN30/DMS100]--------------------[Cisco AS5850]------------------[SIP<br>> proxy]--------------------[Genband SBC]-----------------[CCM]<br>><br>> ISDN30<br>> SIP SIP SIP<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Thanks in advance,<br>><br>><br>><br>> Jan Hazenberg<br>><br>><br>><br>> 2010/7/15 Nicholas Samios <<a href="mailto:nsamios@staff.iinet.net.au" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">nsamios@staff.iinet.net.au</a>><br>>><br>>> What codec are you using ? i.e. Region settings, etc.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> >> If you are not using a cube, you might need an enhanced IOS software<br>>> >> MTP termination point which will allow the capturing of DTMF packets inband<br>>> >> and process them out of band. These can run as software MTPs on the gateway<br>>> >> (cannot use the >>UCM built in >>software MTPs for this purpose).<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> That’s incorrect. CUCM’s inbuilt MTPs can be used to convert DTMF i.e.<br>>> take OOB H245 and make it RFC2833, etc.<br>>><br>>><br>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/6x/media.html#wp1054848" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/6x/media.html#wp1054848</a><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><br>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Paul van den IJssel<br>>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:21 PM<br>>> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] SIP Trunk from ISP DTMF issue<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> My ISP is able to set the DTMF to:<br>>><br>>> - SIP INFO;<br>>><br>>> - SIP NOTIFY;<br>>><br>>> - RFC2833 (payload type 101);<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> If my ISP sets it to RFC2833 the CUCM should accept it right?<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> 2010/7/13 Matt Slaga (US) <<a href="mailto:Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com</a>><br>>><br>>> If you are not using a cube, you might need an enhanced IOS software MTP<br>>> termination point which will allow the capturing of DTMF packets inband and<br>>> process them out of band. These can run as software MTPs on the gateway<br>>> (cannot use the UCM built in software MTPs for this purpose).<br>>><br>>> ________________________________________<br>>> From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><br>>> [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Nick Matthews<br>>> [<a href="mailto:matthnick@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">matthnick@gmail.com</a>]<br>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:38 AM<br>>> To: Mark Holloway<br>>> Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>; Paul van den IJssel<br>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] SIP Trunk from ISP DTMF issue<br>>><br>>> Also check the ccn subsystem sip on the CUE - make sure you're<br>>> configured for the DTMF method you're using everywhere else. Plus use<br>>> a CUBE as stated.<br>>><br>>> -nick<br>>><br>>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Mark Holloway <<a href="mailto:mh@markholloway.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mh@markholloway.com</a>><br>>> wrote:<br>>> > The Genband is probably doing the same thing that CUBE would be doing.<br>>> > What<br>>> > are the DTMF requirements from your provider? Have you confirmed that<br>>> > DTMF<br>>> > is being passed to the provider? A Wireshark capture on the public side<br>>> > of<br>>> > the S3 would verify DTMF is being passed.<br>>> > On Jul 13, 2010, at 7:58 AM, Bill wrote:<br>>> ><br>>> > You should not trunk directly to CUCM from your ITSP. You need to go<br>>> > through<br>>> > a CUBE router. Terminate the ITSP on the CUBE and then do a SIP trunk to<br>>> > your CUBE router.<br>>> ><br>>> > ________________________________<br>>> > From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><br>>> > [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On<br>>> > Behalf Of Paul van den IJssel<br>>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:54 AM<br>>> > To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>>> > Subject: [cisco-voip] SIP Trunk from ISP DTMF issue<br>>> ><br>>> > Hi all,<br>>> ><br>>> > Currently I'm running a acceptance test on a SIP Trunk from our ISP.<br>>> > Everything is working fine except the DTMF.<br>>> ><br>>> > Setup:<br>>> > [GenBand SBC] ---- [SIP Trunk into CUCM 7.1] ---- [Cisco Unity Express<br>>> > 7.0]<br>>> ><br>>> > The SIP Trunk as well as the CUE are in the same region supporting only<br>>> > G.711. On the SIP Trunk I've tried all different kind of DTMF<br>>> > configurations<br>>> > (No Preference, RFC 2833 and OOB). We've tried to force the GenBand SBC<br>>> > to<br>>> > only use RFC 2833 as well as the SIP Trunk. But this didn't work, not<br>>> > even<br>>> > after we added a MRGL with MTP's.<br>>> ><br>>> > Is there some sort of best practive to implement DTMF over a SIP Trunk?<br>>> > Is<br>>> > there a way I can do some debugging on the CUCM/CUE?<br>>> ><br>>> > Kind regards,<br>>> ><br>>> > Paul van den IJssel<br>>> > Digacom<br>>> > _______________________________________________<br>>> > cisco-voip mailing list<br>>> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>>> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> > _______________________________________________<br>>> > cisco-voip mailing list<br>>> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>>> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> cisco-voip mailing list<br>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><br>>><br>>> -----------------------------------------<br>>> Disclaimer:<br>>><br>>> This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain<br>>> confidential and privileged information and is for use by the<br>>> designated addressee(s) named above only. 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