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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes. We were aware that there is no DMA from 4.x to 8.x. Our servers came preinstalled with 8.0.2. We had to overwrite that with 7.1.3 and do the DMA import into it, and them upgrade it to 8.0.3.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I wish Cisco would change their licensing about once a year and each time they change it, it would become more difficult to understand… wait, what? My wish has come true?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cisco ended up sending us the “units” from the DMA XML file and we were able to cut to the new system. However, we still feel like we do not have all of the units entitled to us. It also appears that we don’t have everything that was on the SO.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Go0se<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My blog:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://atc.go0se.com"><span style='color:blue'>http://atc.go0se.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>--------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Help Hopegivers International<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Feed the orphans of Haiti and India<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.hopegivers.org"><span style='color:blue'>http://www.hopegivers.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>--------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ahmed Elnagar [mailto:ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 18, 2010 3:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ted Nugent; Go0se<br><b>Cc:</b> Cisco VOIP<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] UCM 8 "user" licensing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Watch out that there is no DMA for 8.0 upgrade as there is no direct path to 8.x from 4.x you have to upgrade to 7.x first.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best Regards;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Ahmed Elnagar<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Senior Network PS Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Mob: +2019-0016211<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> CCIE#24697 (Voice)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <img border=0 width=63 height=63 id="Picture_x0020_0" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CB3F83.F91C2CB0" alt="ccie_voice_large.gif"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ted Nugent<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> Go0se<br><b>Cc:</b> Cisco VOIP<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] UCM 8 "user" licensing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Upgrades require you use DMA and bring over your existing licenses and register the upgrade license to activate your node, even with CUWL upgrades you have to bring over you existing licensing via DMA. There was a very short period of time where they would just give you what you purchased however that ship sailed about a year ago. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Go0se <<a href="mailto:me@go0se.com">me@go0se.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I’m in the process of upgrading a client from 4.1.3 to 8.0.3. We have/had approx. 60 users/phones on the old 4.1.3 system and we overpurchased 140 “users” for UCM8. I uploaded my license and it only shows 140 “units” authorized. The UCM8 license unit report shows I have 250 “units” used – and based on the license unit calculator it is still calculating “units” based on 4 units for a 7940, etc. So I’m 110 “units” short. I’m on hold with TAC licensing arguing that it doesn’t make sense that 1 user = 1 dlu.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Is there not some calculation of each user license = 4 DLUs or each user = 6 DLUs? This doesn’t make sense.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Go0se<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>My blog:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://atc.go0se.com" target="_blank">http://atc.go0se.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>--------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Help Hopegivers International<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Feed the orphans of Haiti and India<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://www.hopegivers.org" target="_blank">http://www.hopegivers.org</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>--------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Disclaimer: NOTICE The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. 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