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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yea, I definitely don&#8217;t want to downplay the so called
experts wanting to try it in their troubleshooting. Of course, there are plenty
of other commands they don&#8217;t understand that they&#8217;ll want to try
too </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> matthn@gmail.com
[mailto:matthn@gmail.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick Matthews<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 23, 2010 5:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fuermann, Jason<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi; voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] what is: &quot;cablelength long 0db&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I'm sure there are a few cases
out there.&nbsp; I just haven't seen it in over a 100+ cases I've been involved
with.&nbsp; It receives a lot of unjust attention.<br>
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-nick<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Fuermann, Jason &lt;<a
href="mailto:JBF005@shsu.edu">JBF005@shsu.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I&#8217;m going with Go0se on this one.
We use to have a circuit that wouldn&#8217;t work without the cablelength long
command. Conversely, I seem to remember the opposite problem with having the
command on a short cable causing a circuit not to work.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 23, 2010 4:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nick Matthews<br>
<b>Cc:</b> voyp list<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] what is: &quot;cablelength long 0db&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>and today's SAT prep question:<br>
<br>
(1) How Lelio feels about not being to forward secondary lines is like Nick
feels about:<br>
<br>
(a) cablelength long 0db<br>
(b) cablelength long 0db<br>
(c) cablelength long 0db<br>
(d) all of the above.<br>
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<br>
but seriously, I can remove it then?<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;color:black'>&quot;Nick Matthews&quot; &lt;<a
href="mailto:matthnick@gmail.com" target="_blank">matthnick@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;Lelio Fulgenzi&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca"
target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>&quot;voyp list&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"
target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, August 23, 2010 5:49:18 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] what is: &quot;cablelength long 0db&quot;<br>
<br>
I would personally be happy if this command was removed from IOS completely.&nbsp;
Myself and a large number of other people who work with these types of things
many times daily have never seen this command do anything.&nbsp; Except waste
troubleshooting time, and have people who would like to have a technical
opinion on something they don't know anything about bring it up.&nbsp; It does
that quite well.&nbsp; There, I said it.<br>
<br>
And if you see 'unknown protocol drops' on your interface counters you can
ignore that too.<br>
<br>
-nick</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Lelio
Fulgenzi &lt;<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>&gt;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>I've got this on my new 3845, but it's not
on my other one.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>controller T1 0/0/0<br>
&nbsp;cablelength long 0db<br>
!<br>
controller T1 0/1/0<br>
&nbsp;cablelength long 0db</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>And another thing, why am I running
&quot;(C3845-SPSERVICESK9-M), Version 15.0(1)M2&quot;<br>
<br>
isn't SP mean ServiceProvider? I'm sure I didn't ask for this.<br>
<br>
What are people normally running on their branch voice routers ???<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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