<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Not sure how long the cables are just yet…I'll have to ask tomorrow. <br><br>…<div>Don't look at me, my iPod maid that spilling mistake.<span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> </span></div></div><div><br>On 2010-08-23, at 6:36 PM, Nikola Stojsin <<a href="mailto:nikolas@networkmakers.com">nikolas@networkmakers.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What a dream question! All answers are correct. </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Though I sympathize with Nick – this is definitely a paleolithic command (it belongs to an era when serious people argued that Cat5 cables should not be used with serial interfaces). However, it can be a life saver, especially with long and/or shaky pulls. Mercifully, it is needed EXTREMELY rarely!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Lelio, how long are the cables in question?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">HTH,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Nikola<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Nikola Stojsin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">PhD CCIE #12888<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">President<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Network Makers LLC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">110 Wall Street, 11th Floor<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">New York, NY 10005<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(212) 709-8201<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(212) 706-2986 (fax)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="mailto:nikolas@networkmakers.com"><span style="color:#1F497D">nikolas@networkmakers.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.networkmakers.com">http://www.networkmakers.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 23, 2010 5:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> Nick Matthews<br><b>Cc:</b> voyp list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] what is: "cablelength long 0db"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">and today's SAT prep question:<br><br>(1) How Lelio feels about not being to forward secondary lines is like Nick feels about:<br><br>(a) cablelength long 0db<br>(b) cablelength long 0db<br>(c) cablelength long 0db<br>(d) all of the above.<br><br><br>but seriously, I can remove it then?<br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" id="zwchr"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">"Nick Matthews" <<a href="mailto:matthnick@gmail.com">matthnick@gmail.com</a>><br><b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"voyp list" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, August 23, 2010 5:49:18 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] what is: "cablelength long 0db"<br><br>I would personally be happy if this command was removed from IOS completely. Myself and a large number of other people who work with these types of things many times daily have never seen this command do anything. Except waste troubleshooting time, and have people who would like to have a technical opinion on something they don't know anything about bring it up. It does that quite well. There, I said it.<br><br>And if you see 'unknown protocol drops' on your interface counters you can ignore that too.<br><br>-nick<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">I've got this on my new 3845, but it's not on my other one.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin-left:30.0pt"><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">controller T1 0/0/0<br> cablelength long 0db<br>!<br>controller T1 0/1/0<br> cablelength long 0db<o:p></o:p></span></p><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">And another thing, why am I running "(C3845-SPSERVICESK9-M), Version 15.0(1)M2"<br><br>isn't SP mean ServiceProvider? I'm sure I didn't ask for this.<br><br>What are people normally running on their branch voice routers ???<br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank"><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote></body></html>