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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And keep in mind that SIP phones carry higher DLU requirements. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dennis Heim<br>Network Voice Engineer<br>CDW Advanced Technology Services<br>11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225<br>Carmel, IN 46032<br><br>317.569.4255 Office<br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>317.569.4201 Fax<br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>317.694.6070 Cell<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:dennis.heim@cdw.com" title="mailto:dennis.heim@berbee.com">dennis.heim@cdw.com</a><br></span><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.cdw.com/content/solutions/unified-communications/">cdw.com/content/solutions/unified-communications/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Ratliff<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2010 10:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> mthompson729@gmail.com<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Does anyone know the features sip phones do that have that SCCP phones can do?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>If you go for the 69XX phones be sure to read up on their features and even get one to play with if you can. They are low end phones specifically targeted at a certain market segment and if that's not your users they may find them a bit lacking.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>-Ryan</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Aug 30, 2010, at 10:08 AM, <a href="mailto:mthompson729@gmail.com">mthompson729@gmail.com</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>Greg, <br>I'm actually a recent convert over to the feature parity of SIP <-> SCCP, especially in the UCM 7.0+ systems. Other than building each phone differently, in UCM, there won't be much loss. Now, using the cheap SIP phones instead of using the more feature rich devices like the 69XX or 79XX phones, that will come down to a cost / feature decision. I'd check out the 69XX phones, it could save over $100k and keep you in the Cisco product line. It may come down to working with the local Cisco account team, get a demo of a few different phones, and run a pilot of about 10 or 20 folks. That way they know what features they will really want/need and see that they probably won't want those cheap SIP phones. <br><br><br>On Aug 30, 2010 6:20am, Gregory Wenzel <<a href="mailto:gwenzit@gmail.com">gwenzit@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <br>> I have a client with approx 1000 phones and is about to do an office job on this legacy system. He is stuck on sip, why I have no clue but most likely he wants to use cucm8.5 with cheap sip phones besides his service provider telling him he should go all sip and run g729 on-net is not such a great advice, that will only save him in the shortrun with purchasing dsp modules. They have no bandwidth issue haveing a comcast tls 100mb link betw the two sites and a few satelite offices in the philly area. Not ever having built a purely sip system. They have 3 pri's now and I dont see them needing to run g729 onnet and loose that sound quality. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> What does it mean when you have to build the dial plan? and a sip profife for each phone? im embarassed to even ask that but wanted some clairfication from anyone on the group for the dial plan question and besides video advantage not working yet with sip phones what are the other features that do not work yet? <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> even a link to the answer would help or a kick in the butt right direction would be great <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Regards, <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Greg <br>> <br>> <br>>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>