This is more of a terminology thing. When I refer to a SIP trunk I was referring to a SIP provider. Using a SIP gateway (TDM-SIP) doesn't require a license. SIP is tricky business :)<br><br>If you want to have an exact definition it's something more-or-less like this: A CUBE is a router that is doing IP-IP between systems. This can be a mixture of H.323, SIP, and SCCP. Any time you do that, you need a CUBE license. The exception is something like two CMEs networked together with a CUE involved, where you do actually use H.323-SIP or SIP-SIP. The reason I include SCCP in the list of protocols for CUBE is for the CME case, where you're doing SCCP-SIP. Even then, if you are doing something like a SCCP controlled FXS port with CUCM using SIP to a gateway, you wouldn't need a CUBE license. This is why I used a 'basic guideline' in my original post, because it's often misconceived because of these details.<br>
<br>-nick<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Bill Riley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bill@hitechconnection.net">bill@hitechconnection.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I don’t think you need a cube license if you are setting your
dial-peer to use SIP and have it terminate on CUCM. If you are getting the
original calling leg from a TDM interface and sending it via SIP to CUCM I don’t
think you need the CUBE license. IT is only if both call legs on the router
come in as VOIP, as long as one is a POTS leg you are fine. </span></p>
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<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Nick Matthews<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> James Buchanan<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CME to CUBE config</div></div></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Some of this is true, some not.<br>
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Basic guideline - any time you have a SIP trunk you need a CUBE. This
includes CME, CUCM, CUCM-SME, etc.<br>
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Any time you have a CUBE (CME, 2800/3800, 2900/3900, ASR) you need licensing.<br>
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The licensing is not enforced on any platform, but there are plans. CUSP
is licensed and enforced however.<br>
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-nick</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2010/9/12 James Buchanan <<a href="mailto:jbuchanan@ctiusa.com" target="_blank">jbuchanan@ctiusa.com</a>></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">That’s not the case. CME even with the
2900s has the license needed to do SIP trunks to the PSTN.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gregory Wenzel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 12, 2010 2:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Barış Gülten<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CME to CUBE config</span></p>
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<p>2800 series.this is true....2900/3900 series need cube license is:
expensive. I think we quoted 75 sip sessions cost $6,000.00</p>
<p>On Sep 10, 2010 8:14 AM, "Barış Gülten" <<a href="mailto:barisgulten@gmail.com" target="_blank">barisgulten@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Hi, CME not need CUBE license, CME can do outside sip trunk.<br>
> <br>
> Here is the example. <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Voice service voip <br>
> <br>
> address-hiding<br>
> <br>
> allow-connections h323 to h323<br>
> <br>
> allow-connections h323 to sip<br>
> <br>
> allow-connections sip to h323<br>
> <br>
> allow-connections sip to sip<br>
> <br>
> supplementary-service h450.12<br>
> <br>
> h323<br>
> <br>
> sip<br>
> <br>
> bind control source-interface Loopback0<br>
> <br>
> bind media source-interface Loopback0<br>
> <br>
> registrar server expires max 3600 min 3600<br>
> <br>
> !<br>
> <br>
> voice class codec 1<br>
> <br>
> codec preference 1 g729r8<br>
> <br>
> !<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> interface Loopback0<br>
> <br>
> ip address xx.xx.xx.xx 255.255.255.252 /real ip<br>
> <br>
> !<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> dial-peer voice 90 voip<br>
> <br>
> corlist outgoing call-international<br>
> <br>
> preference 1<br>
> <br>
> destination-pattern 00T<br>
> <br>
> voice-class codec 1<br>
> <br>
> session protocol sipv2<br>
> <br>
> session target ipv4:62.244.205.100<br>
> <br>
> dtmf-relay rtp-nte<br>
> <br>
> clid network-number 0232xxxxxxx<br>
> <br>
> !<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Best regards, Baris.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
On Behalf Of Marty van de Veerdonk<br>
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 1:08 PM<br>
> To: cisco-voip<br>
> Subject: [cisco-voip] CME to CUBE config<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Hello,<br>
> can somebody help me with a (example) config for a CME <-> CUBE
setup?<br>
> <br>
> Many thanks!<br>
> <br>
> regards, Marty<br>
> </p>
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