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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Correct. I think we are all on the same page. If both call legs
are VOIP then you need a CUBE or IP-IP GW license. If one end of the call is POTS
and the other is VOIP, including a SIP dial-peer to a CUCM SIP trunk, then you
don’t need a CUBE license. If you are getting your PSTN connectivity from a
SIP Trunk then both ends are VOIP and you need the CUBE License. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> matthn@gmail.com
[mailto:matthn@gmail.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick Matthews<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 12, 2010 5:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bill Riley<br>
<b>Cc:</b> James Buchanan; cisco-voip<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CME to CUBE config<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>This is more of a terminology
thing. When I refer to a SIP trunk I was referring to a SIP
provider. Using a SIP gateway (TDM-SIP) doesn't require a license.
SIP is tricky business :)<br>
<br>
If you want to have an exact definition it's something more-or-less like
this: A CUBE is a router that is doing IP-IP between systems. This
can be a mixture of H.323, SIP, and SCCP. Any time you do that, you need
a CUBE license. The exception is something like two CMEs networked
together with a CUE involved, where you do actually use H.323-SIP or
SIP-SIP. The reason I include SCCP in the list of protocols for CUBE is
for the CME case, where you're doing SCCP-SIP. Even then, if you are
doing something like a SCCP controlled FXS port with CUCM using SIP to a
gateway, you wouldn't need a CUBE license. This is why I used a 'basic
guideline' in my original post, because it's often misconceived because of
these details.<br>
<br>
-nick<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Bill Riley <<a
href="mailto:bill@hitechconnection.net">bill@hitechconnection.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I don’t think you need a cube license if
you are setting your dial-peer to use SIP and have it terminate on CUCM. If you
are getting the original calling leg from a TDM interface and sending it via
SIP to CUCM I don’t think you need the CUBE license. IT is only if both call
legs on the router come in as VOIP, as long as one is a POTS leg you are fine. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick Matthews<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> James Buchanan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CME to CUBE config<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Some of
this is true, some not.<br>
<br>
Basic guideline - any time you have a SIP trunk you need a CUBE. This
includes CME, CUCM, CUCM-SME, etc.<br>
<br>
Any time you have a CUBE (CME, 2800/3800, 2900/3900, ASR) you need licensing.<br>
<br>
The licensing is not enforced on any platform, but there are plans. CUSP
is licensed and enforced however.<br>
<br>
-nick<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>2010/9/12
James Buchanan <<a href="mailto:jbuchanan@ctiusa.com" target="_blank">jbuchanan@ctiusa.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>That’s not the case. CME even with the
2900s has the license needed to do SIP trunks to the PSTN.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#7F7F7F'>CCIE #25863, Voice</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gregory Wenzel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 12, 2010 2:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Barış Gülten<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CME to CUBE config</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>2800 series.this is true....2900/3900 series need cube license is:
expensive. I think we quoted 75 sip sessions cost $6,000.00<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>On Sep 10, 2010 8:14 AM, "Barış Gülten" <<a
href="mailto:barisgulten@gmail.com" target="_blank">barisgulten@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Hi, CME not need CUBE license, CME can do outside sip trunk.<br>
> <br>
> Here is the example. <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Voice service voip <br>
> <br>
> address-hiding<br>
> <br>
> allow-connections h323 to h323<br>
> <br>
> allow-connections h323 to sip<br>
> <br>
> allow-connections sip to h323<br>
> <br>
> allow-connections sip to sip<br>
> <br>
> supplementary-service h450.12<br>
> <br>
> h323<br>
> <br>
> sip<br>
> <br>
> bind control source-interface Loopback0<br>
> <br>
> bind media source-interface Loopback0<br>
> <br>
> registrar server expires max 3600 min 3600<br>
> <br>
> !<br>
> <br>
> voice class codec 1<br>
> <br>
> codec preference 1 g729r8<br>
> <br>
> !<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> interface Loopback0<br>
> <br>
> ip address xx.xx.xx.xx 255.255.255.252 /real ip<br>
> <br>
> !<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> dial-peer voice 90 voip<br>
> <br>
> corlist outgoing call-international<br>
> <br>
> preference 1<br>
> <br>
> destination-pattern 00T<br>
> <br>
> voice-class codec 1<br>
> <br>
> session protocol sipv2<br>
> <br>
> session target ipv4:62.244.205.100<br>
> <br>
> dtmf-relay rtp-nte<br>
> <br>
> clid network-number 0232xxxxxxx<br>
> <br>
> !<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Best regards, Baris.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
On Behalf Of Marty van de Veerdonk<br>
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 1:08 PM<br>
> To: cisco-voip<br>
> Subject: [cisco-voip] CME to CUBE config<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Hello,<br>
> can somebody help me with a (example) config for a CME <-> CUBE
setup?<br>
> <br>
> Many thanks!<br>
> <br>
> regards, Marty<br>
> <o:p></o:p></p>
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