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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>NAT have a lot of problems one of them that I faced myself that
the phones show as register on CUCM but actually they are not…try to avoid it
as much as you can…however if it is mandatory choose the device that is making
NAT for VOIP traffic VOIP aware in order to rewrite the NATted packet in the
correct way that is suitable for RTP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best
Regards;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>  Ahmed Elnagar<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>  Senior Network PS
Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>  Mob: +2019-0016211<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>  CCIE#24697 (Voice)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>john_burk@oxy.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 24, 2010 4:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> humayun_sami@hotmail.com; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] NAT for Call Managers<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>NAT can cause havoc with the RTP stream, but with the right
firewall and design/config it can be made to work. I use VPN if at all possible
to avoid these issues.<br>
<br>
John Burk, Consultant <br>
Sent from my Blackberry</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
<cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net> <br>
<b>To</b>: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net> <br>
<b>Sent</b>: Fri Sep 24 08:02:38 2010<br>
<b>Subject</b>: [cisco-voip] NAT for Call Managers <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Is it recommended to use NAT on VoIP. I have
two separate cluster one for cisco call manager and other for Avaya. We are
integrating both the setups(h323). Is it okay to use NAT. Can someone provide
me a document which helps in this reference.<br>
<br>
<br>
For what reason people do not recommend it in the network, or is it the same
that you do not register your call managers with the domain server. Look
forward to hear.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Humayun Sami.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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