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I'd love to have the case number for this. There is a known issue
where platform can be reported incorrectly.<br>
<br>
MCS-7845-I3 running CUCM 6.1.5/7.1.5 reporting wrong SysObjectID , Open
CSCti88692<br>
Physical Servers checking virtual model changes during system boot ,
Fixed CSCtd34630<br>
<br>
<and another one i can't find right now where a backup of a vmware
is restored on physical server but the platform is still detected as
vmware. I previously posted it to the cisco-voip list><br>
<br>
/Wes<br>
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Charles Goldsmith wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTi=_08gTbCT2CGGaM7dyTcvwXS5U6XNo5FJKr7sf@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">This is the log from my TAC case, when trying to upgrade
the Subscriber (hardware) to match the version on the Publisher (VM), I
had the following error:
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<div>21 July 2010 23:39:03: PHONE LOG</div>
<div>I did a utils system upgrade status and found this:</div>
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<div>DEBUG: Mismatch Manufacturer: expected VMware found IBM</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Customer is running the Publisher in VMWare and the Subscriber
in a 7835-I3.</div>
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<div>According to previous cases this cannot be done and customer has
to install all servers in VMWare or all in MCS servers.</div>
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<div>Now, this TAC engineer might have been wrong, but he clearly
states that these cannot be mismatched. I wasn't necesarily looking
for a supported setup, I was merely trying to test hardware in a lab
before deploying out to a remote site, and do a bit of lab work prior.
I ran across an error during the upgrade and the resultant debug
turned up the above mentioned message.</div>
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<div>I didn't do an exhaustive search, but I don't see anywhere in
the docs where you can mix and match between VM (on UCS) and hardware,
nor did I find anything mentioning that you can't.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>FWIW, I hope it works out for the people trying it..</div>
<div>Charles</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Nick
Matthews <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:matthnick@gmail.com">matthnick@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">If
your VMware publisher wasn't on a UCS server, then it isn't supported.
3rd party hardware isn't supported yet, except for Unity.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
-nick</font>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Charles
Goldsmith <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wokka@justfamily.org" target="_blank">wokka@justfamily.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Interesting,
I was told by TAC that it was not supported. To burn in hardware and
to do some lab work before I put a subscriber into production, I paired
it with a virtual publisher, upgrade on them failed miserably (they
would run at the default version off the DVD), but I couldn't upgrade
from whatever 8.x I had on DVD to current.
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<div>If anyone wants details on this, I can dig it up, I had
posted on here with the upgrade errors, when no response was had,
opened a case on it and was told no.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>BTW, my subscriber was an IBM server, 7835 series.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>YMMV</div>
<div>Charles</div>
<div>
<div>
<div><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Nick
Matthews <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:matthnick@gmail.com" target="_blank">matthnick@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Yes.
Some of the limitations of the hardware are things like MoH live feeds,
your console dumps now go somewhere else, RTMT hardware stats are
replaced with some VMware/UCS equivalents, etc. But from an
application layer it's the same. It does however know how much
CPU/disk/memory you've given it and shows on the about screen.<br>
<br>
-nick<br>
<br>
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<div>On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:19 PM, STEVEN CASPER <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:SCASPER@mtb.com"
target="_blank">SCASPER@mtb.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Interesting.... For me to upgrade to 8.x I need to
replace 4 of my subscribers and my publisher next year however I just
purchased some HP G6 servers to replace my 7835 servers. Can you mix
virtual subscribers and a publisher with MCS type subscriber and TFTP
servers?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Steve<br>
<br>
>>> Ahmed Elnagar <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com" target="_blank">ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com</a>>
9/23/2010 7:01 PM >>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Cisco
SEs is pushing on the virtualization for new customers and customers
considering upgrading to version 8.x…be aware that all H series is
already EOS due to the bad relationship between Cisco and HP “obviuolsy
the UCS was part of the fight” IBM servers has a lot of problems “this
is from my own personal point of view”.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">UCS
is great C series configuration is to support 4 X 7945 server and the
cost is significantly less than hardware server…plus the added benefits
like hardware efficiency and DC sizing for large customers…etc.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The
drawbacks would be that you will need experience not only in UC part
but add to it the VMware and UCS itself…if you are going to B series it
is more complicated than the C series.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">A
great advantage for UCS is that you are able to have a sort of a
“redundant Publisher server” as the database is stored in SAN and if
the engineer fails it switches over to another own automatically so as
if you have a redundant server “but I think this is supported with the
B series” I am not very aware of deep technical info in this part.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">If
I were you I would go with UCS C series “for easier management”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">And
remember; all the world is going virtual </span><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Wingdings;">J</span><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p>
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style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> Ahmed Elnagar</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:george.hendrix@l-3com.com" target="_blank">george.hendrix@l-3com.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 22, 2010 4:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] Cisco MCS vs UCS Servers</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi everyone, </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> I noticed Cisco has the new UCS C and
B series servers. Does anyone have any thoughts as to whether these
are the way to go or not? Do they perform better than the MCS H or I
series? Also since these are out now, does anyone know if there are
plans to put the remainder of the MCS servers EOL? BTW, this would be
for a new CUCM 8 installation.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Bill Hendrix </span><span
style="font-size: 12pt; color: gray;"></span></p>
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