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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I just thank the gods that my clients so far have been small and their SRST needs are little and simple. If I needed to fully replicate my CCM dial plans in SRST…………. Ugh…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Matthew Loraditch, CCVP, CCNA, CCDA</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><br>1965 Greenspring Drive<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Timonium, MD 21093 <br><a href="mailto:support@heliontechnologies.com"><span style='color:black'>support@heliontechnologies.com</span></a><br>(p) (410) 252-8830<br>(F) (443) 541-1593<br><br>Visit us at <a href="http://www.heliontechnologies.com/"><span style='color:black'>www.heliontechnologies.com</span></a> <br>Support Issue? Email <a href="mailto:support@heliontechnologies.com"><span style='color:black'>support@heliontechnologies.com</span></a> for fast assistance!</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 08, 2010 10:16 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jason Aarons (US)<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] SRST and dial peers and trunk groups and CallManager MGCP config downloads<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Add to that COR lists, and you got yourself and thick soup of confusion. ;)<br><br>…<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Don't look at me, my iPod maid that spilling mistake.<span class=apple-style-span> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 2010-10-08, at 7:48 PM, "Jason Aarons (US)" <<a href="mailto:jason.aarons@us.didata.com">jason.aarons@us.didata.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Some ends users struggle with dial-peers and routers.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If you’ve never touched a router than MGCP is for you (as you will have to touch the router less), if you’re a CCNP or smart you can have dial peers.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Smith<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 08, 2010 7:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] SRST and dial peers and trunk groups and CallManager MGCP config downloads</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>This is a nice reason for using h323 or even sip now and avoiding ccm manager config and mgcp.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It has bugged us here in Australia for years in partial E1 configs. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Also hate the lack of call preservation in a fallback!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Tim<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 09/10/2010, at 2:12, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>I'm thinking that might be the way to go. remove the ccm-manager config command once i've downloaded the config. If I make any changes on CallManager, then I re-issue the ccm-manager config command and reapply the trunk group settings on each serial interface.<br><br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>"VoIP Guy" <<a href="mailto:ciscovoiper1@gmail.com">ciscovoiper1@gmail.com</a>><br><b>To: </b>"Matthew Loraditch" <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>, <a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, October 8, 2010 10:48:23 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] SRST and dial peers and trunk groups and CallManager MGCP config downloads<br><br>It might just be worth disabling the command ccm-manager config which means that your config should not be overwritten.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Matthew Loraditch <<a href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I don't think you have a choice. The serial port configs are controlled by ccm in mgcp mode its always going to overwrite anything not from ccm when it resets.<br><br>Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (<a href="http://www.nitrodesk.com">www.nitrodesk.com</a>)</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br>-----Original Message----- <br><b>From:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi [<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>]<br><b>Received:</b> 10/8/10 10:10 AM<br><b>To:</b> voyp list [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>]<br><b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] SRST and dial peers and trunk groups and CallManager MGCP config downloads</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>So here's my scenario:</span><o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>3845/3945 router with two or more PRIs</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>PRIs are in MGCP mode using "ccm-manager config" to download configs</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>router acts as SRST so MGCP gateways go into H323 fall back</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>I had tried configuring trunk groups to use with the dial peers so i wouldn't have to duplicate them for each PRI. This worked until the second SRST trigger. So the behaviour was this:</span><o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>configure trunk group membership on serial interface as instructed by TAC</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>configure dial peers to point to trunk group</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>trigger SRST, make calls, calls work</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>revert back to normal operation</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>router downloads MGCP config from CallManager, effectively wiping out the trunk group membership on serial interfaces</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>trigger SRST, make calls, calls fail because there are no trunk group members</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>How are others handling this scenario, i.e. you are using MGCP with "ccm-manager config" command and SRST and trunk groups?<br><br>Why wouldn't CCM allow for a trunk group membership command? I even checked on version 7.1 and there's nothing there. :(<br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. 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