<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>OK. Thanks. I will have to test things. I would rather live with someone accidentally pressing numbers on the keypad (when they shouldn't) than not having FAC working.<br><br><br><span><br><span name="x"></span>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><span name="x"></span><br></span><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Wes Sisk" <wsisk@cisco.com><br><b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br><b>Cc: </b>"voyp list" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 2, 2010 4:53:34 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] pauses in dialing strings supported in CallManager v7?<br><br>
inline, ws.<br>
<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
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<div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">ok.
i'm just a little confused by this. <br>
<br>
are we saying that native CallManager FAC/CMC won't work with en-bloc
dialing enabled?<span> <br>
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ws: at the time of that defect, yes. enbloc and FAC would not work
together. the user got no opportunity to enter the FAC. I have not
tested recent versions.<br>
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also, what do they mean by "insert digits when directory dialing" ?
randomly? or only when you press the key pad during dialing? meaning
you can interrupt the dial string.<br>
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ws: yes, with overlap sending you can hit buttons on the keypad and
insert extra digits in the dial string. the extra keypresses were not
saved and then appended to the end or similar logical behavior.<br>
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<span></span>---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
<span></span><br>
</span><br>
<hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Wes Sisk" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank"><wsisk@cisco.com></a><br>
<b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><lelio@uoguelph.ca></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"voyp list" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><cisco-voip@puck.nether.net></a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 2, 2010 4:11:17 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] pauses in dialing strings supported
in CallManager v7?<br>
<br>
Lelio,<br>
<br>
I believe that detail was specific to CM's native implementation of
FAC/CMC. When going out to PSTN it is typically a matter of placing
the call with out of band digits and then providing the code via inband
digits.<br>
<br>
Enbloc dialing is faster and less susceptible to error. Digit at a
time allows problems such as:<br>
CSCso95186 Third generation phones insert digits when directory
dialing <br>
<br>
I also updated the Release-note so we can all find this faster next
time.<br>
<br>
/Wes<br>
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Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
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<div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Thanks
Wes!<br>
<br>
I see that the bug says a work around is to press the speaker first,
then enter the number, which makes sense. But the firmware release
notes says CMC and FAC does not work at all. :(<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cuipph/firmware/8_5_2/english/release/notes/7900_852SR1.html#wp166339" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cuipph/firmware/8_5_2/english/release/notes/7900_852SR1.html#wp166339</a><br>
<br>
Is there any benefit to enbloc dialing?<br>
<span><br>
<span></span>---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
<span></span><br>
</span><br>
<hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Wes Sisk" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com" target="_blank"><wsisk@cisco.com></a><br>
<b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><lelio@uoguelph.ca></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"voyp list" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><cisco-voip@puck.nether.net></a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 2, 2010 3:44:46 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] pauses in dialing strings
supported
in CallManager v7?<br>
<br>
I believe pauses are an outstanding feature request. There have been
workarounds on H.323 gateways.<br>
<br>
For 40/60v42/62 I believe the difference is going to be enbloc
dialing. 42/62 switched to enbloc dialing where 40/60 always uses
digit-at-a-time.<br>
<br>
For some background see:<br>
CSCsw54967 en-bloc dialing for FAC not working <br>
<br>
/Wes<br>
<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
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<div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">i'm
sure v8.7 can do magic, but i'm just wondering about CallManager v7<span>?<br>
<br>
we have a corporate directory that includes extensions. <br>
<br>
i just noticed that the 7942/62 balks when trying to dial this string
of full numbers, but the 7940/60 work just fine.<br>
<br>
thoughts?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<span></span>---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
<span></span><br>
</span><br>
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