<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>there were genuine parts a while back still without holograms and i believe the way to tell if they were fake was that they _did_ have holograms on the boxes.<br><br>i remember reading an article where they showed 4 or so pairs of pictures, one genuine, one fake and asked you to tell the difference. i failed each one. <br><br>these fakes made their way into the supply chain of very reputable distributors and partners. it was huge.<br><br><br><span><br><span name="x"></span>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><span name="x"></span><br></span><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Mark Holloway" <mh@markholloway.com><br><b>To: </b>"Eric Butcher" <Eric.Butcher@cdw.com><br><b>Cc: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca>, "voyp list" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, November 5, 2010 4:51:09 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] omg. i think my router is possessed. BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()<br><br>I'm sure it was. No hologram. When I bought genuine T1 and E1 cards for my lab they have worked perfect.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Nov 5, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Eric Butcher wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Verdana; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Not to mention it is probably forged / counterfeit hardware.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; 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font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top: 1pt solid rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mark Holloway<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, November 05, 2010 4:35 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Lelio Fulgenzi<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>voyp list<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] omg. i think my router is possessed. BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()</span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"> </div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">I had happen this when I bought E1 or T1 VWIC cards on ebay. I learned my lesson. The cards die pretty quick and firmware gets corrupts causing Layer 2 issues.</div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"> </div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"> </div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">On Nov 5, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:</div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><br><br></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana,sans-serif; color: black;">weird. i'm testing with a crossover and there were never these messages before. i'll have to restart it to see if that fixes it. ;)<br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><br></span></p><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; text-align: center;" align="center"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana,sans-serif; color: black;"><hr id="zwchr" width="100%" align="center" size="2"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana,sans-serif; color: black;">From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana,sans-serif; color: black;">"James Buchanan" <<a href="mailto:jbuchanan@presidio.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" target="_blank">jbuchanan@presidio.com</a>><br><b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>, "voyp list" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br><b>Sent:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Friday, November 5, 2010 4:24:01 PM<br><b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>RE: [cisco-voip] omg. i think my router is possessed. BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()</span></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">PRI is down?</span><span style="color: black;"></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span style="color: black;"></span></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: Verdana,sans-serif; color: rgb(127, 127, 127);">James Buchanan<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: Verdana,sans-serif; color: rgb(126, 126, 126);">|</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><b><span style="font-size: 7pt; 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font-family: Verdana,sans-serif; color: rgb(127, 127, 127);"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: Verdana,sans-serif; color: rgb(127, 127, 127);">|<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: Verdana,sans-serif; color: rgb(126, 126, 126);"><a href="http://www.presidio.com/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">www.presidio.com</a></span></b><span style="color: black;"></span></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: Verdana,sans-serif; color: rgb(127, 127, 127);">CCIE #25863, Voice</span></b><span style="color: black;"></span></p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span style="color: black;"></span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; color: black;">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; color: black;"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, November 05, 2010 3:12 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>voyp list<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[cisco-voip] omg. i think my router is possessed. BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()</span><span style="color: black;"></span></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana,sans-serif; color: black;">anyone know why my router started spewing these out all of a sudden?<br><br>BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()BAD FRAME()<br><br><br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)</span><span style="color: black;"></span></p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"> </div></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>