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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoPlainText>Thanks Ed. A few follow up questions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>When I fail over from the primary to the secondary what will the CAD see? Will they see an error?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Is there a way to stop new calls from connecting to the primary server and move to the secondary while the calls remaining on the primary are handled. In other words no dropped calls?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>I want to make sure that the upgrade does not affect call processing on the secondary HA server. So as long as I can force the switchover from the primary to the secondary, and perform the upgrade on the primary without interrupting the active secondary server then I will not need to put it on an isolated server. I don’t have a maintenance window and we are 24x7. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>So once I force the failover from the primary to the secondary the primary will not take back over unless the secondary is stopped correct?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>I am going to delete the update program on the client PC’s so it will not auto update CAD when it connects to the new server. I know this is not supported but I did test it. I have about 200 PC’s I need to get to and update and they are not allowed to have local admin rights even to perform the upgrade.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Ed Leatherman [mailto:ealeatherman@gmail.com] <br>Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 6:05 PM<br>To: Bill Riley<br>Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX 5.01 upgrade to 7.01</p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Inline below:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Bill Riley <<a href="mailto:bill@hitechconnection.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>bill@hitechconnection.net</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> We are planning an upgrade from UCCX 5.01 SR2 to 7.01 SR5. We will <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> take the primary server offline to perform the upgrade<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> in an isolated network to minimize the downtime involved. We currently <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> have two servers in<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> an HA configuration. I have the following questions:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> • How can I force the failover from the primary node to the <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> secondary node<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I always just stop the CRS engine from the control center in appadmin when i need to switch them<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> • How long does it take to switch from the primary to the backup<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Pretty much instantly if its setup right. NOTE: any calls in queue or in IVR will be dropped.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> • Do the CAD clients automatically failover to the secondary <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> server<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Yes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> • How long can the primary server be offline?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I do not believe there is a time limit.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> • Does the secondary server maintain a copy of all of the call <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> statistics while the<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> primary server is offline?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>yes. In fact usually when you run the historical reports client, it is connecting to which ever server is NOT currently the active node (to avoid performance impact)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> • If the primary server is offline and a new CAD client is <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> started, will it automatically<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> connect to the secondary?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Yes.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> • If I upgrade the primary server on an isolated network where <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> it cannot communicate with<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> the secondary server will the upgrade complete<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Never tried it. Is there a particular reason you want to do that? It's intended to upgrade with the other node in service.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> • What will happen when I start the primary server after the <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> upgrade to 7.01 and the<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> secondary server is still at 5.0? Will the client continue to operate <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> on the secondary<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> server?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I believe the CAD clients will run on the secondary server until you run the upgrade or otherwise shut off the CRS engine. Note that the CAD clients will need to update before they will work on the new version. I'm lucky in that we have a non-production window when I can do maintenance like this, so I haven't monitored them too closely in that specific situation.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> • Will I then be able to upgrade the secondary server to 7.01?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>When you run the upgrade program on the secondary node, it checks the primary node to make sure it has upgraded successfully. If it has, it permits you to continue the secondary node upgrade.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Thanks for any help or experience you can provide.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> cisco-voip mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>hope that helps.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>--<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Ed Leatherman<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>