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<span style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:small;color:black">They want you to buy into UCSS. More even revenue stream for them<br>
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<b>From:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi [lelio@uoguelph.ca]<br>
<b>Received:</b> Saturday, 11 Dec 2010, 12:21pm<br>
<b>To:</b> Ahmed Elnagar [ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com]<br>
<b>CC:</b> voyp list [cisco-voip@puck.nether.net]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade<br>
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<div>I think we would be less concerned with the multitude of versions if they continued supporting the older versions. There are many bugs in v7.x which they simply say fixed in v8.x. There is no EOL on v7 yet, why not fix these bugs in the version that is
still alive?<br>
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On Dec 11, 2010, at 11:59 AM, "Ahmed Elnagar" <<a href="mailto:ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com">ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I totally agree with you…FYI version 9 is released internally I think in cisco and seems that Cisco engineers are working on it to figure out any bugs in it
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If you use Bug tool kit you will see an option for CUCM version 9 :D<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regarding the hop from 8.0 to 8.5 I think there is some reason for that as it was the same for 7 as they released 7.1.5 before 7.1.4 ever exists…I don’t know
but seems there is a core change with that version “other than the restricted and unrestricted part I don’t see any significant change”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For us who deploy CUCM…sure we are not enjoying this nightmare
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">L</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697 Voice</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> David Zhars [mailto:dzhars@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 11, 2010 6:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ahmed Elnagar<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi; voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">What is up with Cisco's rapid version increases with CM? My gawd, 4 years ago we had 4.1, then 5 (seemed short lived),then 6 (didn't seem to be the new guy on the block very long either), then 7 (which I was
told would be the one that was real stable and would hang around awhile). Before I knew it, we had 8, now we have 8.5!!! Am I correct to assume there was no 8.1, 8.2, 8.3, 8.4??
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I wish they would slow down the versioning just a bit!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Ahmed Elnagar <<a href="mailto:ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com"></a><a href="mailto:ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com">ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">We have a rule here through Cisco that no product is sold without a maintenance contract “Smart net or Co-brand as I remember” so this
is always a valid option.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">And BTW just checked CCO and the version 8.5(1) just released 7-DEC.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Best Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 11, 2010 1:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ahmed Elnagar<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Bill Talley; voyp list<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">By license, I meant "right to upgrade". Upgrading from 8.0 to 8.5 is not free per se, you need to be on a maintenance contract of some type. <br>
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On Dec 11, 2010, at 6:51 AM, "Ahmed Elnagar" <<a href="mailto:ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com">ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I think there will be no difference in the license for 8.5 if you have 8.x then you can run any version of CUCM 8…also I think files
are downloadable now as ISO images.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">But I think 8.5 is not released on CCO till now as I think.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Best Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 11, 2010 5:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bill Talley<br>
<b>Cc:</b> voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">for sure...if
<b><i>only </i></b>8.0 is available for whatever reason, i.e. media and/or license, then yes, 7.1.5 is not a viable option.<br>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
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Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">"Bill Talley" <<a href="mailto:btalley@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:btalley@gmail.com">btalley@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"voyp list" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>>, "Leslie Meade" <<a href="mailto:lmeade@signal.ca" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:lmeade@signal.ca">lmeade@signal.ca</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, December 10, 2010 10:24:53 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">You're correct, however, if she doesn't have 8.5 and upgrades to 7.1.5, how does she get to 8.0(x)?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Sent from a mobile device with very tiny touchscreen input keys. Please excuse my typos.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">as per the compatibility matrix (all hail the compatibility matrix!), upgrades from 7.1.5 to 8.5 are supported.<br>
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<a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html#wp278167" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html#wp278167">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html#wp278167</a><br>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">"Bill Talley" <<a href="mailto:btalley@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:btalley@gmail.com">btalley@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"Leslie Meade" <<a href="mailto:lmeade@signal.ca" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:lmeade@signal.ca">lmeade@signal.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"voyp list" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, December 10, 2010 6:35:15 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Just don't go to 7.1.5. IIRC, right now the upgrade paths to 8 from 7 include only 7.1.3 and earlier.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Sent from a mobile device with very tiny touchscreen input keys. Please excuse my typos.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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On Dec 10, 2010, at 4:25 PM, "Leslie Meade" <<a href="mailto:lmeade@signal.ca" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:lmeade@signal.ca">lmeade@signal.ca</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Many thanks I knew it had to goto 7 first but wanted to make sure</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 10, 2010 2:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Leslie Meade; voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: 4.2 to 8 upgrade</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Leslie Meade<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 10, 2010 4:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Am I correct saying that I need to go to 7 first and then onto 8 ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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