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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What bugs are you talking about? I would like to see specifics
on a bug they will not fix in a current version. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 11, 2010 11:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ahmed Elnagar<br>
<b>Cc:</b> voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I think we would be less concerned with the multitude of
versions if they continued supporting the older versions. There are many bugs
in v7.x which they simply say fixed in v8.x. There is no EOL on v7 yet, why not
fix these bugs in the version that is still alive?<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPod<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Dec 11, 2010, at 11:59 AM, "Ahmed Elnagar" <<a
href="mailto:ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com">ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
totally agree with you…FYI version 9 is released internally I think in cisco
and seems that Cisco engineers are working on it to figure out any bugs in it </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If
you use Bug tool kit you will see an option for CUCM version 9 :D</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regarding
the hop from 8.0 to 8.5 I think there is some reason for that as it was the
same for 7 as they released 7.1.5 before 7.1.4 ever exists…I don’t know but
seems there is a core change with that version “other than the restricted and
unrestricted part I don’t see any significant change”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For
us who deploy CUCM…sure we are not enjoying this nightmare </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>L</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best
Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697 Voice</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> David Zhars
[mailto:dzhars@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 11, 2010 6:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ahmed Elnagar<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi; voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>What is
up with Cisco's rapid version increases with CM? My gawd, 4 years ago we
had 4.1, then 5 (seemed short lived),then 6 (didn't seem to be the new guy on
the block very long either), then 7 (which I was told would be the one that was
real stable and would hang around awhile). Before I knew it, we had 8, now
we have 8.5!!! Am I correct to assume there was no 8.1, 8.2, 8.3,
8.4?? <br>
I wish they would slow down the versioning just a bit!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On
Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Ahmed Elnagar <<a
href="mailto:ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com">ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>We have a rule here through Cisco that
no product is sold without a maintenance contract “Smart net or Co-brand as I
remember” so this is always a valid option.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>And BTW just checked CCO and the version
8.5(1) just released 7-DEC.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
background:white;background-position-x:0%;background-position-y:0%;background-attachment:
scroll'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697
Voice</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Lelio
Fulgenzi [mailto:<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 11, 2010 1:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ahmed Elnagar<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Bill Talley; voyp list</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>By
license, I meant "right to upgrade". Upgrading from 8.0 to 8.5 is not
free per se, you need to be on a maintenance contract of some type. <br>
<br>
Sent from my iPod<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
On Dec 11, 2010, at 6:51 AM, "Ahmed Elnagar" <<a
href="mailto:ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com">ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I think there will be no difference in
the license for 8.5 if you have 8.x then you can run any version of CUCM 8…also
I think files are downloadable now as ISO images.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>But I think 8.5 is not released on CCO
till now as I think.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
background:white;background-position-x:0%;background-position-y:0%;background-attachment:
scroll'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697
Voice</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 11, 2010 5:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bill Talley<br>
<b>Cc:</b> voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>for sure...if <b><i>only </i></b>8.0 is
available for whatever reason, i.e. media and/or license, then yes, 7.1.5 is
not a viable option.<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;color:black'>"Bill Talley" <<a
href="mailto:btalley@gmail.com">btalley@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"voyp list" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>>,
"Leslie Meade" <<a href="mailto:lmeade@signal.ca">lmeade@signal.ca</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, December 10, 2010 10:24:53 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>You're correct, however, if she doesn't
have 8.5 and upgrades to 7.1.5, how does she get to 8.0(x)?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Sent from a mobile device with very tiny
touchscreen input keys. Please excuse my typos.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><br>
On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>as per the compatibility matrix (all hail
the compatibility matrix!), upgrades from 7.1.5 to 8.5 are supported.<br>
<br>
<a
href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html#wp278167">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html#wp278167</a><br>
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---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
- LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;color:black'>"Bill Talley" <<a
href="mailto:btalley@gmail.com">btalley@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"Leslie Meade" <<a href="mailto:lmeade@signal.ca">lmeade@signal.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"voyp list" <<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, December 10, 2010 6:35:15 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Just don't go to 7.1.5. IIRC, right
now the upgrade paths to 8 from 7 include only 7.1.3 and earlier.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Sent from a mobile device with very tiny
touchscreen input keys. Please excuse my typos.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><br>
On Dec 10, 2010, at 4:25 PM, "Leslie Meade" <<a
href="mailto:lmeade@signal.ca">lmeade@signal.ca</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Many thanks I knew it had to goto 7 first but wanted to
make sure</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;color:black'> Matthew Loraditch [mailto:<a
href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 10, 2010 2:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Leslie Meade; voyp list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: 4.2 to 8 upgrade</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>yes</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Leslie Meade<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 10, 2010 4:58 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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