<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Do you have network switches already? Is this a new hotel? Is there existing telephone wire to the rooms? Or are they pulling new cat5/6?</div><div><br></div><div>With VG224s you just use analog sets. The can be as cheap or as expensive as you want. Is this a fancy motel or a budget motel?</div><div><br></div><div>Costwise, you'd have to get it spec'ed out by your vendor to be sure. </div><div><br>Sent from my iPod</div><div><br>On Dec 20, 2010, at 11:14 PM, Abebe Amare <<a href="mailto:abucho@gmail.com">abucho@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hi Lelio,<br><br>Currently there is nothing in place I am just looking for the right solution. How much would that kind of setup would cost? A UC500 with 6900 phones costs around 15000 USD (GPL) which is too much for me. <br>
<br>Zoltan, do you happen to know some of the off-brand PBX systems? I might be able to buy them from the middle east.<br><br>best regards,<br><br>Abebe Amare<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca"><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a></a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Something you can also consider is an H323 only implementation using voip dialpeers. I'm not sure what call control you have available, but a couple of VG224s with a small router might just do the trick.<br>
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Or am I off my rocker?<br>
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On Dec 20, 2010, at 9:55 AM, <<a href="mailto:Zoltan.Kelemen@emerson.com"><a href="mailto:Zoltan.Kelemen@emerson.com">Zoltan.Kelemen@emerson.com</a></a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi Abebe,<br>
><br>
> Cisco (as far as I know) will never be competitive with the most basic<br>
> systems as that is simply not their target market.<br>
><br>
> Panasonic for example has some reliable PBX systems in that size and<br>
> with SLTs (single line telephones) it is certainly significantly below<br>
> $1000 per user (look for a KX-TDA 30 for that size). Off brand PBX<br>
> systems might be available for less, although this will largely depend<br>
> on what you can actually buy where you are from.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Zoltan Kelemen<br>
> ETS & Information Security<br>
> Global Operations (EMEA)<br>
> European Network Operations Engineer<br>
> Cluj-Napoca, Romania<br>
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><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a></a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a></a>] On Behalf Of Abebe Amare<br>
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 8:55 AM<br>
> To: David Zhars<br>
> Cc: cisco voip<br>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] PBX<br>
><br>
> Hi Dave,<br>
><br>
> I reside in one of the poorest places in Africa so my insistence on<br>
> cost. The solution is for a small motel which needs about 40 phones.<br>
> They just need very basic features.There is no copper PSTN access for<br>
> outgoing calls only GSM connection. If the UC system is affordable<br>
> that is the best option for me.<br>
><br>
> best regards,<br>
><br>
> Abebe<br>
> On 12/18/10, David Zhars <<a href="mailto:dzhars@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:dzhars@gmail.com">dzhars@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br>
>> Well good luck Abebe.... I went through this same exercise 5 years<br>
> ago. So<br>
>> called "standard" PBXs are very expensive, hard to configure or<br>
> expand, and<br>
>> have very little "future-ization" built in. IP PBXs are very<br>
> expensive,<br>
>> moderately hard to configure and expand, and have a lot of<br>
> "future-ization"<br>
>> built in. Do you deal with a large VAR like a CDW, or ProVantage,<br>
> PCMall,<br>
>> etc? They might be a better source of information. Many phone<br>
> companies<br>
>> now offer "rentable" PBXs, where the PBX stays in their building, and<br>
> it<br>
>> runs via a connection back to them (generally a high speed Internet<br>
>> connection).<br>
>><br>
>> I found this blurb when I was doing my looking around and it's still<br>
> true<br>
>> today:<br>
>><br>
>> "Estimating costs for a complete phone system are very difficult:<br>
> costs can<br>
>> quickly climb into the tens of thousands of dollars. Key systems and<br>
> hybrids<br>
>> can range from $350 to $1000 per user, depending on the features you<br>
> select.<br>
>> For larger PBX systems, prices start at around $800 per user, but<br>
> usually<br>
>> wind up more in the $1000 per user range. There are significant<br>
> economies of<br>
>> scale: very small offices will find it hard to stay under $1000 per<br>
> user for<br>
>> any system, and companies with 100 or more employees save<br>
> considerably."<br>
>><br>
>> I would think it very hard to purchase and install a new PBX with new<br>
> phones<br>
>> for less than $500 a person, and that would be cheap.<br>
>><br>
>> Again, good luck. And last word: stay away from that junk you'll find<br>
> at<br>
>> Staples or Best Buy!!<br>
>><br>
>> Dave<br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Abebe Amare <<a href="mailto:abucho@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:abucho@gmail.com">abucho@gmail.com</a></a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Thanks Go0se,<br>
>>><br>
>>> What kind of phones the UC 500 series support? Cisco phones are very<br>
>>> expensive for the price range I am looking for. I am looking for low<br>
>>> priced solution with very basic key system functionality.<br>
>>><br>
>>> best regards,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Abebe Amare<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 12/17/10, Go0se <<a href="mailto:me@go0se.com"><a href="mailto:me@go0se.com">me@go0se.com</a></a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
> <a href="http://www.cisco.com/cisco/web/solutions/small_business/products/voice_c" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.cisco.com/cisco/web/solutions/small_business/products/voice_c">http://www.cisco.com/cisco/web/solutions/small_business/products/voice_c</a></a><br>
> onfe<br>
>>>> rencing/uc_500_series/index.html<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Click on the MODELS tab once you open the page above. Then click<br>
> the GET<br>
>>>> STARTED tab to find someone who'll sell/install it for you.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Go0se<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> My blog:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href="http://atc.go0se.com" target="_blank"><a href="http://atc.go0se.com">http://atc.go0se.com</a></a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --------------------------------------------<br>
>>>><br>
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>>>><br>
>>>> Feed the orphans of Haiti and India<br>
>>>><br>
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>>>><br>
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>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> From: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a></a><br>
>>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a></a>] On Behalf Of Abebe<br>
> Amare<br>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 6:45 AM<br>
>>>> To: cisco voip<br>
>>>> Subject: [cisco-voip] PBX<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Hello guys,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> This might not be the right place to ask being a voip list, but I<br>
> was<br>
>>>> wondering if someone could recommend me a 48 phone capable PBX like<br>
>>>> panasonic and if possible with phone models as well?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> best regards,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Abebe Amare<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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