When you say SIP trunk, are you implying that this is going to a SIP provider? Or is this just a SIP gateway and the fax is going out a TDM interface?<br><br>If it's a SIP trunk you're sending the fax over, forget about anything using NSEs - like Pete said they're Cisco proprietary.<br>
<br>You'll need to configure the other device for protocol based T.38 switchover like you've got it configured on your end.<br><br>-nick<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Antonio Soares <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amsoares@netcabo.pt">amsoares@netcabo.pt</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">We tried the "fax protocol t38 nse force" but it didn't work.<br>
<br>
Now with "fallback cisco" we have something different:<br>
<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
s=VoIP d=DSP payload 0x60 ssrc 0xFFD5D4C sequence 0x291 timestamp<br>
0x19A50<br>
<div class="im"> <<<Rcv> Pt:96 Evt:136 Pkt:01 40 50<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
</div> s=DSP d=VoIP payload 0x61 ssrc 0xFFE2 sequence 0x0 timestamp 0x0<br>
Pt:97 Evt:0 Pkt:00 04 00 <Snd>>><br>
--------------------------------------<br>
s=DSP d=VoIP payload 0x60 ssrc 0x0 sequence 0x0 timestamp 0x0<br>
Pt:96 Evt:0 Pkt:00 00 00 <Snd>>><br>
--------------------------------------<br>
s=VoIP d=DSP payload 0x60 ssrc 0xFFD5D4C sequence 0x292 timestamp<br>
0x19AA0<br>
<div class="im"> <<<Rcv> Pt:96 Evt:136 Pkt:01 40 50<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
</div> s=DSP d=VoIP payload 0x61 ssrc 0x60014 sequence 0x1 timestamp 0x1<br>
Pt:97 Evt:0 Pkt:01 00 00 <Snd>>><br>
--------------------------------------<br>
s=VoIP d=DSP payload 0x60 ssrc 0xFFD5D4C sequence 0x293 timestamp<br>
0x19AF0<br>
<div class="im"> <<<Rcv> Pt:96 Evt:136 Pkt:01 40 50<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
</div> s=DSP d=VoIP payload 0x61 ssrc 0x0 sequence 0x2 timestamp 0x2<br>
Pt:97 Evt:0 Pkt:01 00 00 <Snd>>><br>
--------------------------------------<br>
s=VoIP d=DSP payload 0x60 ssrc 0xFFD5D4C sequence 0x294 timestamp<br>
0x19B40<br>
<div class="im"> <<<Rcv> Pt:96 Evt:136 Pkt:01 40 50<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
</div> s=DSP d=VoIP payload 0x61 ssrc 0x0 sequence 0x3 timestamp 0x3<br>
Pt:97 Evt:0 Pkt:01 00 00 <Snd>>><br>
--------------------------------------<br>
s=DSP d=VoIP payload 0x7A ssrc 0xFFFFFFFF sequence 0x9EBF<br>
timestamp 0x2FE4CED0<br>
Pt:122 Evt:0 Pkt:52 3A 00 <Snd>>><br>
--------------------------------------<br>
<br>
Now we see:<br>
<br>
Pt:96 Evt:136 (Sent by a voice gateway to signal a switchover to Cisco<br>
fax relay)<br>
Pt:97 Evt:0 (Sent by a voice gateway to confirm a successful switchover<br>
to Cisco fax relay)<br>
Pt:122 Evt:0 (Indicates Cisco fax relay data)<br>
<br>
So I was expecting this would mean it was working but apparently it still<br>
doesn't work.<br>
<br>
I'm using this document as reference:<br>
<br>
Cisco RTP Payload Types<br>
<br>
<a href="https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-1387" target="_blank">https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-1387</a><br>
<br>
Any other ideas ?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)<br>
<a href="mailto:amsoares@netcabo.pt">amsoares@netcabo.pt</a><br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Peter Slow [mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.slow@gmail.com">peter.slow@gmail.com</a>]<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">Sent: segunda-feira, 17 de Janeiro de 2011 12:16<br>
To: Antonio Soares<br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] T.38 Fax Issue<br>
<br>
No, "fallback cisco" is different. You need to try the "fax protocol<br>
t38 nse force" command.<br>
<br>
-pete<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Antonio Soares <<a href="mailto:amsoares@netcabo.pt">amsoares@netcabo.pt</a>> wrote:<br>
> It was working before so I assume the other end's configuration was<br>
changed.<br>
> This is a SIP trunk and we have this configuration for the T.38 fax:<br>
><br>
> voice service voip<br>
> fax protocol t38 ls-redundancy 0 hs-redundancy 0 fallback pass-through<br>
> g711alaw<br>
><br>
> We are now trying the following:<br>
><br>
> voice service voip<br>
> fax protocol t38 ls-redundancy 0 hs-redundancy 0 fallback cisco<br>
><br>
> This should match their PT=96 request, right ?<br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)<br>
> <a href="mailto:amsoares@netcabo.pt">amsoares@netcabo.pt</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Peter Slow [mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.slow@gmail.com">peter.slow@gmail.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: segunda-feira, 17 de Janeiro de 2011 11:50<br>
> To: Antonio Soares<br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] T.38 Fax Issue<br>
><br>
> Usually t.38 Fax relay operates by switching to t.38 based on an MGCP<br>
> MDCX, a new h245 TCS/OLC etc, or a SIP re-invite. this is referred to<br>
> as protocol based switchover, and is generally how people's gateways<br>
> are configured for t.38 when it is being used. it would appear that<br>
> the other GW you are talking to is set up for NSE based switchover,<br>
> which AFAIK is a cisco proprietary method. You may be configured for<br>
> protocol based switchover still, while it sounds like perhaps the<br>
> other side went and changed something and is now trying to do NSE<br>
> based switchover...<br>
><br>
> Check out this link:<br>
><br>
<a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_3/vvf_c/cisco_ios_fax_services_over_i" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_3/vvf_c/cisco_ios_fax_services_over_i</a><br>
> p_application_guide/t38.html#wp1156699<br>
><br>
> It is tough to help you out beyond what I've said without knowing what<br>
> protocol (h.323, MGCP..) you are using for call control. More insight<br>
> there, plus perhaps some asn1 or mgcp packet debugs would help, but<br>
> try setting your side to use nse based switchover if it isnt set that<br>
> way already.<br>
><br>
> -Peter<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Antonio Soares <<a href="mailto:amsoares@netcabo.pt">amsoares@netcabo.pt</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
>> Hello group,<br>
>><br>
>> A few days ago, fax stopped working on one gateway. The "debug voip rtp<br>
>> session nse" gives me this:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<br>
>> ++++++++++++++<br>
>> s=VoIP d=DSP payload 0x60 ssrc 0x509B391F sequence 0x18E<br>
> timestamp<br>
>> 0xF8C0<br>
>> <<<Rcv> Pt:96 Evt:136 Pkt:02 80 50<br>
>> s=VoIP d=DSP payload 0x60 ssrc 0x509B391F sequence 0x18F<br>
> timestamp<br>
>> 0xF910<br>
>> <<<Rcv> Pt:96 Evt:136 Pkt:01 40 50<br>
>> s=VoIP d=DSP payload 0x60 ssrc 0x509B391F sequence 0x190<br>
> timestamp<br>
>> 0xF960<br>
>> <<<Rcv> Pt:96 Evt:136 Pkt:01 40 50<br>
>> s=VoIP d=DSP payload 0x60 ssrc 0x509B391F sequence 0x191<br>
> timestamp<br>
>> 0xF9B0<br>
>> <<<Rcv> Pt:96 Evt:136 Pkt:01 40 50<br>
>> s=VoIP d=DSP payload 0x60 ssrc 0x509B391F sequence 0x192<br>
> timestamp<br>
>> 0xFA00<br>
>> (...)<br>
>><br>
><br>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<br>
>> ++++++++++++++<br>
>><br>
>> Most likely, the problem is on the other end, a gateway that I do not<br>
>> control.<br>
>><br>
>> I believe for this to work I need to receive PT=100 and EVT=200:<br>
>><br>
>> Payload Type 100: Designates an NSE (Named Signaling Event packet). NSE<br>
>> packets can signal a variety of different messages so it is helpful to<br>
> know<br>
>> the NSE Event ID.<br>
>><br>
>> Event 200: Triggered by the detection of a V.21 fax preamble when T.38 is<br>
>> configured. This message initiates the switchover of the call from voice<br>
> to<br>
>> T.38. This message is sent by the terminating fax gateway to notify the<br>
>> originating fax gateway of the switch to T.38.<br>
>><br>
>> And I'm receiving PT=96 and EVT=136. PT=96 means " Sent by a voice<br>
gateway<br>
>> to signal a switchover to Cisco fax relay". I wasn't able to find the<br>
>> meaning of EVT=136.<br>
>><br>
>> With this information, can I assume that the problem is on the other end<br>
?<br>
>> Can I do anything on my side to force the desired PT/EVT combination ?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Thanks.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)<br>
>> <a href="mailto:amsoares@netcabo.pt">amsoares@netcabo.pt</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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