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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There is a major difference that I noticed starting from 7.x releases<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>7.1.1 to 7.1.4 “if they ever exists” has no restricted and unrestricted version.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Starting 7.1.5 “which was a jump release from 7.1.3 to 7.1.4” introduced the restricted and unrestricted versions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The same for 8.x…8.0 for now has nothing to do with restricted and unrestricted; however 8.5 do.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697 Voice</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Kouloglou<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 21, 2011 5:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> Scott Voll<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck-nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading to 8.5(1) CUCM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Hi Scott,<br>thanks for your answer.<br>No, i wouldn't like to jump to it so quick <span class=moz-smiley-s1>:-) :-) </span><br>But it is almost 2 months now!!<br><br></span><br>On 21/1/2011 17:34, Scott Voll wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Typically 8.5.1 will go to the new version of 9.0 when it comes out. But Like Lelio said if you continue down the path..... 8.5.2, 8.5.4, 8.5.8 and then 9.0 comes out you might have to wait for a 9.0.5 before you would be able to upgrade. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Being 8.5 just came out in the past couple weeks...... are you sure you want to jump so quick?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Scott<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Anthony Kouloglou <<a href="mailto:akoul@dataways.gr">akoul@dataways.gr</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Sorry to bother you again Lelio but i have seen that matrix many times. I use it often for my upgrade paths.<br>There is no info for <b><u>Upcoming</u></b> versions of CUCM (8.6, 9.0, 9.1 etc).<br>I just don't want to upgrade to 8.5(1) and then get stuck there until 9.5 or something else valid is released<br><br>Kind Regards<br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#888888'>Anthony</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>On 21/1/2011 17:11, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>All that information is contained in the compatibility matrix. Take a look there first...<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>"Anthony Kouloglou" <a href="mailto:akoul@dataways.gr" target="_blank"><akoul@dataways.gr></a><br><b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><lelio@uoguelph.ca></a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" target="_blank">"cisco-voip@puck-nether.net"</a> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><cisco-voip@puck.nether.net></a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, January 21, 2011 10:09:03 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading to 8.5(1) CUCM<br><br>Thanks Lelio,<br>i understood what you said about licensing and contracts.<br>But, i would like to know apriori if possible that, if i have upgraded to 7.1.5 i would have to wait for the 8.5 because you cannot upgrade from 7.1.5 to 8.0.<br>Is this info for the next versions of 8.5 somewhere?<br><br>Thanks a lot<br>Anthony<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>There are two sides to this question, licensing and technical.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Technically speaking, you'll have to look at the CUCM compatibility matrix to see what versions can upgrade to what versions. Cisco hasn't been too bad at making upgrades work especially from an n-1 release, however, there are occasions depending on how far into the N-1 train you venture you will not be able to upgrade to the next release. For example, you can't upgrade from 7.1.5 to 8.0 I believe, but you can upgrade from 7.1.5 to 8.5 (please check the matrix for exacts).<br><br><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html</a><br><br>Licensing is another matter and handles the legality of upgrades. An "Essential" contract allows you access to minor upgrades, i.e. N.x to N.y. A UCSS contract allows you access to major upgrades, i.e. N.x to N+1.y. In actuality, you can upgrade to the latest version, not just N+1. ;)<br><br>Hope that helps, I'm sure others will offer up some comments as well.<br><br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br> - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>"Anthony Kouloglou" <a href="mailto:akoul@dataways.gr" target="_blank"><akoul@dataways.gr></a><br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" target="_blank">"cisco-voip@puck-nether.net"</a> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><cisco-voip@puck.nether.net></a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, January 21, 2011 9:52:01 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>[cisco-voip] Upgrading to 8.5(1) CUCM<br><br>Hi All,<br>i was wondering, if i upgrade to CUCM 8.5(1), will i be then able to upgrade to the upcoming 8.x or 9.0 versions?<br>Is there a roadmap for that?<br><br>Kind Regards<br>Anthony <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><DIV> </DIV>Disclaimer: NOTICE The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. 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