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    <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px;"><font face="Arial">It's
        probably a safe bet that 8.5(1) will go to any version of CUCM
        not yet released.  The upgrade path issues usually come into
        play when a higher number CUCM is released before a lower
        number.  For example, 6.0 was release before 5.1(3), 7.0 was
        released before 6.1(4)/6.1(5), 8.0 was released before 7.1(5).
        New tables and dependencies are added to the database schema
        which would cause major problems if upgrades were not blocked to
        the higher numbered (but older) version.</font>  <br>
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      HTH,<br>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Adam </pre>
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        ------------Original Message--------------<br>
        From: Anthony Kouloglou <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:akoul@dataways.gr"><akoul@dataways.gr></a><br>
        Sent: Fri, Jan 21, 2011 10:40:16 Am<br>
        To: Scott Voll <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com"><svoll.voip@gmail.com></a><br>
        CC: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net">"cisco-voip@puck-nether.net"</a>
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><cisco-voip@puck.nether.net></a><br>
        Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading to 8.5(1) CUCM</span>
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        <font size="-1"><font face="Trebuchet MS">Hi Scott,<br>
            thanks for your answer.<br>
            No, i wouldn't like to jump to it so quick <span
              class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-) </span></span><span
              class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-) </span></span><br>
            But it is almost 2 months now!!<br>
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        On 21/1/2011 17:34, Scott Voll wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTinz7fJwgzYtk3uCk1cJVEiRaFP_ei6b8+6uA=E5@mail.gmail.com"
          type="cite">Typically 8.5.1 will go to the new version of 9.0
          when it comes out.  But Like Lelio said if you continue down
          the path..... 8.5.2, 8.5.4, 8.5.8 and then 9.0 comes out you
          might have to wait for a 9.0.5 before you would be able to
          upgrade.
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          <div>Being 8.5 just came out in the past couple weeks......
            are you sure you want to jump so quick?</div>
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          <div>Scott<br>
            <br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 7:17 AM,
              Anthony Kouloglou <span dir="ltr"><<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:akoul@dataways.gr">akoul@dataways.gr</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
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                      face="Trebuchet MS">Sorry to bother you again
                      Lelio but i have seen that matrix many times. I
                      use it often for my upgrade paths.<br>
                      There is no info for <u><b>Upcoming</b></u>
                      versions of CUCM (8.6, 9.0, 9.1 etc).<br>
                      I just don't want to upgrade to 8.5(1) and then
                      get stuck there until 9.5 or something else valid
                      is released<br>
                      <br>
                      Kind Regards<br>
                      <font color="#888888"> Anthony<br>
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                      On 21/1/2011 17:11, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
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                        <div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size:
                          10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">All that
                          information is contained in the compatibility
                          matrix. Take a look there first...<span><br>
                            <span name="x"></span><br>
                          </span><br>
                          <hr><b>From: </b>"Anthony Kouloglou" <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:akoul@dataways.gr"
                            target="_blank"><akoul@dataways.gr></a><br>
                          <b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca"
                            target="_blank"><lelio@uoguelph.ca></a><br>
                          <b>Cc: </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net"
                            target="_blank">"cisco-voip@puck-nether.net"</a>
                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"
                            target="_blank"><cisco-voip@puck.nether.net></a><br>
                          <b>Sent: </b>Friday, January 21, 2011
                          10:09:03 AM<br>
                          <b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading to
                          8.5(1) CUCM<br>
                          <br>
                          Thanks Lelio,<br>
                          i understood what you said about licensing and
                          contracts.<br>
                          But, i would like to know apriori if possible
                          that, if i have upgraded to 7.1.5 i would have
                          to wait for the 8.5 because you cannot upgrade
                          from 7.1.5 to 8.0.<br>
                          Is this info for the next versions of 8.5
                          somewhere?<br>
                          <br>
                          Thanks a lot<br>
                          Anthony<br>
                          <br>
                          <blockquote>There are two sides to this
                            question, licensing and technical.<br>
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                              Technically speaking, you'll have to look
                              at the CUCM compatibility matrix to see
                              what versions can upgrade to what
                              versions. Cisco hasn't been too bad at
                              making upgrades work especially from an
                              n-1 release, however, there are occasions
                              depending on how far into the N-1 train
                              you venture you will not be able to
                              upgrade to the next release. For example,
                              you can't upgrade from 7.1.5 to 8.0 I
                              believe, but you can upgrade from 7.1.5 to
                              8.5 (please check the matrix for exacts).<br>
                              <br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html"
                                target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html</a><br>
                              <br>
                              Licensing is another matter and handles
                              the legality of upgrades. An "Essential"
                              contract allows you access to minor
                              upgrades, i.e. N.x to N.y. A UCSS contract
                              allows you access to major upgrades, i.e.
                              N.x to N+1.y. In actuality, you can
                              upgrade to the latest version, not just
                              N+1. ;)<br>
                              <br>
                              Hope that helps, I'm sure others will
                              offer up some comments as well.<br>
                              <br>
                              <span><br>
                                <span></span>---<br>
                                Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
                                Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of
                                Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
                                (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
                                (JNHN)<br>
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                                Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed
                                it and forget it. <br>
                                                              - LFJ
                                (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
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                              <hr><b>From: </b>"Anthony Kouloglou" <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:akoul@dataways.gr"
                                target="_blank"><akoul@dataways.gr></a><br>
                              <b>To: </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net"
                                target="_blank">"cisco-voip@puck-nether.net"</a>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"
                                target="_blank"><cisco-voip@puck.nether.net></a><br>
                              <b>Sent: </b>Friday, January 21, 2011
                              9:52:01 AM<br>
                              <b>Subject: </b>[cisco-voip] Upgrading to
                              8.5(1) CUCM<br>
                              <br>
                              Hi All,<br>
                              i was wondering, if i upgrade to CUCM
                              8.5(1), will i be then able to upgrade to
                              the upcoming 8.x or 9.0 versions?<br>
                              Is there a roadmap for that?<span
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                              Kind Regards<br>
                              Anthony<span style="font-size: 12pt;"
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