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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks Ryan..great information; as usual </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697 Voice</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ryan Ratliff [mailto:rratliff@cisco.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ahmed Elnagar<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck-nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.5 and CUMA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The deployment guide for Cisco Mobile 8 just recently posted. It has a section specifically on why to use one version over the other.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6789/ps7290/ps7271/deployment_guide_c07-641141.html">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6789/ps7290/ps7271/deployment_guide_c07-641141.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>-Ryan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jan 25, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Ahmed Elnagar wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am giving it a lab test soon.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have read in the features and services guide for CUCM 8.5 “the first version that should replace the CUMA” is that CUMC can now register directly to CUCM without the need for CUMA server…however what about connectivity…the document say that CUMC uses single port to communicate to CUCM…then what should I do? Just do a static entry on the firewall to forward requests on this port to CUCM?...I don’t think that will be a good idea and a lot of big enterprise will defiantly refuse this approach.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Unlike CUMA…you setup the ASA as a proxy server with certificate authentication of the client “CUMC”…is the same doable with CUMC?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697 Voice</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Ryan Ratliff [mailto:rratliff@cisco.com]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, January 24, 2011 11:08 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Ahmed Elnagar<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 8.5 and CUMA</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The SRND has be the best run-down of the differences. Check out the "Mobility Beyond the Enterprise" section, specifically the difference in the dual-mode clients and CUMC. <a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/8x/mobilapp.html#wp1082858">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/8x/mobilapp.html#wp1082858</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It really comes down to what phone you have, what version of the mobility client, and what CUCM version you have. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>-Ryan</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jan 21, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Ahmed Elnagar wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Dear all;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>It have been said here before that starting CUCM 8.5 a CUMA server is no longer required, can anyone shade some light on how the design will look like? How the CUMC client on the phone connects and get its information…will ASA be required or not??</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I think this topic is causing a lot of confusing…if anyone has a document that clearly explains how this replacement is achieved.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697 Voice</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#244061'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Raya IT - Professional Networking Services</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mobile : +20190016211</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tel : +20238276000 Ext. 2475</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fax : +20238372930</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Email :<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com">ahmed_elnagar@rayacorp.com</a><br>Address : El Motamayez District - 6th of October</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><image001.jpg></span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande","serif"'>Disclaimer: NOTICE The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. 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