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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You state that you are on CUCM 7.1(5). For CUCM 7.1(5) and later, DLU enforcement is still in the software but licensing is user based. When you purchase a user license you get enough DLUs to effectively “disable” DLU enforcement. In these versions IP Communicator or any other soft client would be licensed as “Adjunct” to the Enhanced UCL user license. DLUs are NOT purchased, and you are not licensed to use any “spare” DLUs that might be in the system. Licensing is back to honor-based (well, mostly as the number of DLUs issued per user may provide some enforcement) and each user must have a license.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>7975 + CIPC = UCL Enhanced User (LIC-CUCM-USR) + Adjunct Device (LIC-ADJ-USR-AUDVID) + CIPC client (IPCOMM7-LIC). CUWL Standard, which includes this and much more, is already less expensive, even without adding a voicemail box. CUWL Std includes choice of these soft clients: CIPC, CUPC, CUCI-xxx. Cisco Mobile (smartphone clients) is not included in CUWL Standard, but is in CUWL Pro.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>7975 + Cisco Mobile for iPhone = UCL Enhanced User (LIC-CUCM-USR) + Adjunct Device (LIC-ADJ-USR-AUDVID) + Cisco Mobile client for iPhone (VOIP-IPH-LIC)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>CIPC or Cisco Mobile as sole endpoint = UCL Enhanced User (LIC-CUCM-USR) + client license (IPCOMM7-LIC or VOIP-IPH-LIC)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>SNR is included for all UCL users, there is no additional charge. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Don<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Brian Schultz [mailto:bms314@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> Scott Voll<br><b>Cc:</b> Don Weiner (dweiner); cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] licensing question.......<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Under the IP communicator device (same for iPhone, CSF, etc.), there should be a Primary Phone field (not sure which version this was introduced). When you select the primary desk phone device, the DLU consumption turns into an adjunct device so only 1 DLU is required. This has nothing to do with CUWL.<br><br>Brian<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We currently don't have CUWL. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Really it comes down to we are looking at Mobile users.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>What is our Cost (in DLU) for using SNR vs Cisco Mobile clients?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So if your not on CUWL then even if every user has a 7961 and 276 of those users have IP communicator I get dinged 3 DLU's for the soft client where as with CUWL it would be all covered under the one License? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Next scenario: under CUWL one user could have cisco mobile client, 7961, IP communicator, and CSF. Where as with DLUs I'm looking at 4 + 4 + 3 + 1 = 12 DLU's<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>Scott</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Don Weiner (dweiner) <<a href="mailto:dweiner@cisco.com" target="_blank">dweiner@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Assuming CUCM 7.1(5) or later:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>If the user is covered by CUWL Pro there is no additional charge for the iPhone client (Cisco Mobile).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>If there is no CUWL license in effect, the iPhone is licensed like any other advanced phone. If the iPhone is the only device the user has then it’s licensed as a UCL user. If the user already has a primary device (already licensed as a UCL enhanced user) then a full license is not required and an Adjunct License is used to cover the 2<sup>nd</sup> phone (the iPhone client).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Prior to CUCM 7.1(5) it’s a matter of DLUs, and as with later versions if the user has a desk phone then they don’t require a full phone license for an additional device. The difference is the number of DLUs consumed from the DLU pool when the phone is administered in CCMAdmin.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>There is absolutely no feature difference regardless of the licensing.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Don</span><span style='color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>CM 7.1.5<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Not on CUWL licensing.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>What is the difference between cisco dual mode for Iphone and Adjunct. I know the difference is 3 DLU. What is the feature difference?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Same with Mobility Enabled End User and Adjunct.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#888888'>scott</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>