<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>...or doesn't want to spend almost a million dollars upgrading a telephone system that is working perfectly fine just because it was end of life'ed. ;)</div><div><br></div><div><br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:51 AM, "Churchill, Jason" <<a href="mailto:Jason.Churchill@uxcconnect.com.au">Jason.Churchill@uxcconnect.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yup good idea. We may also have a spare server we can use for an ‘intermediate’ server to transition the solution from 7.0.1 through to 7.1.5 on the new hardware.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I guess this is going to be a big problem going forward with the linux os’s. Since you can’t always buy the same hardware 1,2 or 3 years later, what if the
customer doesn’t want to upgrade or can’t upgrade due to 3<sup>rd</sup> party apps that are plugged into the cluster, but they may be forced to since the hardware they have to purchase (to replace the old hardware) will not support the old software.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 3 February 2011 12:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Churchill, Jason<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Call Manager 7.0.1 Hardware Swap<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">No problems. I just checked the inventory (for Canada) and there were quite a few MCS servers available. Some fairly cheap. As long as the 7.0(1) DVD and software support it, it doesn't matter how small the server is, i.e. a 7916 should
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<p class="MsoNormal">Don't forget to apply any service releases, etc. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Oh, another approach is to ask the account team for something from their demo pool. That might also be an option. <br>
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On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:42 AM, "Churchill, Jason" <<a href="mailto:Jason.Churchill@uxcconnect.com.au"><a href="mailto:Jason.Churchill@uxcconnect.com.au">Jason.Churchill@uxcconnect.com.au</a></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yup all good points. So I will check out the possibility of arranging some extra disks for the server,
just in case we need to restore the subscriber.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Will look into a refurbished server as well. Thanks for the comments. Much appreciated.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 3 February 2011 12:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Churchill, Jason<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Call Manager 7.0.1 Hardware Swap</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I would also try to use different disks jus in case you need to bring the sub into production again. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">And consider buying a used server off the grey market. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Cisco has refurbished equipment for sale as well. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">You can log in and check the inventory. <br>
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On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:32 AM, "Churchill, Jason" <<a href="mailto:Jason.Churchill@uxcconnect.com.au"><a href="mailto:Jason.Churchill@uxcconnect.com.au">Jason.Churchill@uxcconnect.com.au</a></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That is certainly one idea. I could retire the Subscriber, rebuild it to a new publisher, DRR import
the 7.01, then upgrade to 7.1.5. Defiantly a good idea.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Anyone know of any other way?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks Lelio</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 3 February 2011 12:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Churchill, Jason; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></a><br>
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On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca"><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:18 AM, "Churchill, Jason" <<a href="mailto:Jason.Churchill@uxcconnect.com.au"><a href="mailto:Jason.Churchill@uxcconnect.com.au">Jason.Churchill@uxcconnect.com.au</a></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I have a quick question for the list. I have to perform an upgrade for my customer. They have old 7825H2 and H3 servers which are currently running CUCM 7.0.1<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">New hard ware has been purchased by them and we have been asked to complete the migration from their current server hardware to the new hardware. During this move we will move them
to the latest stable release of CUCM 7.1.5<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The process we were going to follow was to take a DRS backup for the current 7.01 system, restore to the new hardware with 7.01 installed, upgrade to 7.02 then to 7.1.5. However
when I put the dvd of CUCM 7.0.1 into the new IBM MCS servers, it will not detect the hardware or any devices on the system. Only the keyboard and video display works. This leaves me to believe that since the 7.0.1 DVD was made back in 2008, the new IBM hardware
drivers are not loaded on the install disk, and therefore the system can’t detect the drivers to allow the install to continue.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">So I was wondering what everyone would do in this situation? Does cisco provide an updated 7.0.1 bootable DVD that can be used on the new servers? As DRS can only restore to the
same version on the new server, we either have to:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span>Upgrade the current live cluster to 7.1.5 or<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span>Work out a way to get the older 7.0.1 software on the new IBM MCS servers.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">At all possible costs, we would like to avoid upgrading the live system to 7.1.5 on box, as the current system is pretty unstable. However this may be the only viable way forward.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Can anyone suggest any other ways of getting around this issue?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
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