<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:x="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns:p="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:powerpoint" xmlns:a="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:access" xmlns:dt="uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882" xmlns:s="uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" xmlns:rs="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:rowset" xmlns:z="#RowsetSchema" xmlns:b="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:publisher" xmlns:ss="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:spreadsheet" xmlns:c="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:component:spreadsheet" xmlns:odc="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:odc" xmlns:oa="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:activation" xmlns:html="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:q="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" xmlns:rtc="http://microsoft.com/officenet/conferencing" xmlns:D="DAV:" xmlns:Repl="http://schemas.microsoft.com/repl/" xmlns:mt="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/meetings/" xmlns:x2="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/excel/2003/xml" xmlns:ppda="http://www.passport.com/NameSpace.xsd" xmlns:ois="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/ois/" xmlns:dir="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/directory/" xmlns:ds="http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#" xmlns:dsp="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/dsp" xmlns:udc="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:sub="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/2002/1/alerts/" xmlns:ec="http://www.w3.org/2001/04/xmlenc#" xmlns:sp="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/" xmlns:sps="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:udcs="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/soap" xmlns:udcxf="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/xmlfile" xmlns:udcp2p="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/parttopart" xmlns:wf="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/workflow/" xmlns:dsss="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2006/digsig-setup" xmlns:dssi="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2006/digsig" xmlns:mdssi="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/digital-signature" xmlns:mver="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/markup-compatibility/2006" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns:mrels="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/relationships" xmlns:spwp="http://microsoft.com/sharepoint/webpartpages" xmlns:ex12t="http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/types" xmlns:ex12m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/messages" xmlns:pptsl="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/SlideLibrary/" xmlns:spsl="http://microsoft.com/webservices/SharePointPortalServer/PublishedLinksService" xmlns:Z="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" xmlns:st="" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
        {font-family:"Cambria Math";
        panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Calibri;
        panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Tahoma;
        panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
        {margin:0in;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        font-size:12.0pt;
        font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:blue;
        text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:purple;
        text-decoration:underline;}
p.MsoAcetate, li.MsoAcetate, div.MsoAcetate
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        mso-style-link:"Balloon Text Char";
        margin:0in;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        font-size:8.0pt;
        font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";}
span.EmailStyle17
        {mso-style-type:personal-reply;
        font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
        color:windowtext;}
span.BalloonTextChar
        {mso-style-name:"Balloon Text Char";
        mso-style-priority:99;
        mso-style-link:"Balloon Text";
        font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";}
.MsoChpDefault
        {mso-style-type:export-only;}
@page WordSection1
        {size:8.5in 11.0in;
        margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
        {page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Note:  UCS C-series management support was added to UCS Manager v1.4(1).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/unified_computing/ucs/release/notes/OL_24086.html#wp56822">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/unified_computing/ucs/release/notes/OL_24086.html#wp56822</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>-mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Saskin<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 26, 2011 6:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ed Leatherman<br><b>Cc:</b> Cisco VOIP<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] C-series servers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Ed - C series servers can only be managed separately, no UCS manager.<br><br>For what it's worth, I've got clients ranging from 2 x UCS C210's in a small environment (CUCM + UCXN) to ones with multiple B-series chassis running large CUCM + UCCE deployments.  All are happy, and none have experienced any support issues.  In fact, one has turned UCS into their de facto blade hardware, displacing HP.  It's a stable platform, and for most new deployments, hard to cost justify still using MCS servers.  As a point of reference (based on list price), a C210 is only a touch more expensive when you include VMware licensing than an MCS-7845, however you can run 2-4 apps instead of 1.  If you look at the maintenance costs, UC Support/smartnet on a UCS C210 costs about 30-50% of what it costs on an MCS-7845, which is another compelling reason.  Reduce server count by 50%+ and reduce ongoing maintenance by 50%+ per chassis = big-time savings.<br><br>To my understanding there is a single TAC support team, at least for RTP, that is responsible for most/all UC on UCS tickets, regardless of what component they are related to; UCS, Nexus, or UC Apps - this helps to keep the ball in one court if/when it comes down to support issues.  As long as everything is deployed per the UC on UCS guidelines, all should be well.<br><br clear=all>Matthew Saskin<br><a href="mailto:msaskin@gmail.com" target="_blank">msaskin@gmail.com</a><br>203-253-9571<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Ed Leatherman <<a href="mailto:ealeatherman@gmail.com">ealeatherman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thats basically what we're planning, except CER instead of CM. Nice.<br><br>Are you using UCS Manager for these servers or are they manageable individually?<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Carter, Bill <<a href="mailto:bcarter@sentinel.com">bcarter@sentinel.com</a>> wrote:<br>> We are implementing this now. Two C-Series servers. Server 1 has<br>> UCM-Publisher, UCxN, UCCX, Server 2 has UCM-Subscriber, UCxN, UCCX.<br>><br>> Works really well. Also found significant performance improvement when<br>> doing upgrades...Fast!<br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><br>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Matthew<br>> Loraditch<br>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:24 PM<br>> To: Ed Leatherman; Cisco VOIP<br>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] C-series servers<br>><br>> Well I've got a C200M2 on order for someone. Not sure that I'll be able<br>> to give you much helpful reaction given my install timeline length but<br>> if you still need info once I've got her up and running I'll be glad to<br>> give some.<br>><br>><br>> Matthew Loraditch, CCVP, CCNA, CCDA<br>> 1965 Greenspring Drive<br>> Timonium, MD 21093<br>> <a href="mailto:support@heliontechnologies.com">support@heliontechnologies.com</a><br>> (p) (410) 252-8830<br>> (F) (443) 541-1593<br>><br>> Visit us at <a href="http://www.heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">www.heliontechnologies.com</a><br>> Support Issue? Email <a href="mailto:support@heliontechnologies.com">support@heliontechnologies.com</a> for fast assistance!<br>><br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><br>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Ed Leatherman<br>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:19 PM<br>> To: Cisco VOIP<br>> Subject: [cisco-voip] C-series servers<br>><br>> Anyone deployed or running any UC apps on the UCS C210 servers? Any<br>> thoughts or opinions? Do you like the hardware better than a HP or IBM?<br>> Has running on VMWare caused any support headaches?<br>><br>> I'm planning to migrate Unity Connection to it and also looking at this<br>> as an option for UCCX as our current hardware is EOL soon. Since it<br>> would be virtualized i can use the server that will have the connection<br>> VM to also host one of the UCCX nodes, which will help out price-wise.<br>><br>> --<br>> Ed Leatherman<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> cisco-voip mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>> <a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> cisco-voip mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>> <a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><br>><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>--<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ed Leatherman<br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>