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    <font size="-1"><font face="Trebuchet MS">Hi all,<br>
        it does not work with ATA187 :-(<br>
        I don't know if there is a way to overcome the problem.<br>
        I am really desperate.<br>
        Why can't cisco create a sip dial rule that works with that?<br>
        ATA 187 is from the same vendor that makes the Call Manager:
        CiSCO!!<br>
        You may have tones of them in places that you want that feature
        (elevators, lobbys, bathrooms).<br>
        It is really hard to believe...<br>
        <br>
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    On 4/5/2011 18:02, Ryan Ratliff wrote:
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      cite="mid:ADADFA5F-A502-40B3-A6BB-7643531B47C0@cisco.com"
      type="cite">I don't know much at all about the ATA 187 but nothing
      in the Admin Guide leads me to believe it's a feature the ATA
      supports itself.
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      <div>The data sheet did have the words "dial plan" on it but I
        have no idea what that specifically references.  I'd say you are
        in the realm of try it and see if it works or not.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>If it doesn't work and is a feature you need then you need to
        get in touch with your account team to have them get a feature
        request in for the ATA.</div>
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            <div>-Ryan</div>
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          <div>On May 4, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Anthony Kouloglou wrote:</div>
          <br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
          <div text="#000066" bgcolor="#ffffff"> <font size="-1"><font
                face="Trebuchet MS">Hi Ryan,<br>
                what do you mean <small>"</small></font></font><small>to
              be configured on the ATA itself</small><font size="-1"><font
                face="Trebuchet MS"><small>" <big>?<br>
                    Is it possible to configure this way an ATA 187?</big><br>
                </small></font></font><br>
            On 4/5/2011 17:46, Ryan Ratliff wrote:
            <blockquote
              cite="mid:55281AF8-4642-4709-80F0-9BABAF31359F@cisco.com"
              type="cite">On a VG where you configure dial-peers you can
              configure 'connection plar' on the voice-port just as you
              would on any other router that is not controlled by CUCM.
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              <div>The ATA is the tricky one.  It likely did not exist
                at the time that doc was written and so if it supports
                SIP dial rules from CUCM it'll work.  If it doesn't then
                any plar functionality would have to be configured on
                the ATA itself.<br>
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                      <div>-Ryan</div>
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                    <div>On May 4, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi
                      wrote:</div>
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                        <div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size:
                          10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">According to that
                          doc:<br>
                          <br>
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                              <div style="margin: 0px;"><b>Note </b><img
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  src="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/i/templates/blank.gif"
                                  alt="" width="1" border="0" height="2">Only

                                Cisco Unified IP Phones 7940/41,
                                7960/61, and 7970/71 support PLAR for
                                SIP.</div>
                            </span>
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                          <br>
                          Guess that means if you need analog PLAR, you
                          need VG224/202/204 running something else
                          other than SIP?<br>
                          <br>
                          Good to know.<br>
                          <span><br>
                            <span name="x"></span>---<br>
                            Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
                            Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph
                            * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
                            (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
                            (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
                            Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it
                            and forget it.<span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
                                                          - LFJ (with
                            apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
                            <span name="x"></span><br>
                          </span><br>
                          <hr id="zwchr"><b>From:<span
                              class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Ryan

                          Ratliff" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com">rratliff@cisco.com</a>><br>
                          <b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Anthony

                          Kouloglou" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:akoul@dataways.gr">akoul@dataways.gr</a>><br>
                          <b>Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a>"
                          <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
                          <b>Sent:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday,

                          May 4, 2011 10:22:34 AM<br>
                          <b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re:

                          [cisco-voip] Cisco ATA 187 and connection plar<br>
                          <br>
                          SIP phones don't signal offhook to CUCM in the
                          same way SCCP phones do so there is no
                          opportunity for CUCM to treat it as a call
                          with no dialed number. 
                          <div><br>
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                          <div>For SIP you need to configure dial rules.</div>
                          <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/7_1_2/ccmsys/a03adial.html#wpmkr1039674"
                              target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/7_1_2/ccmsys/a03adial.html#wpmkr1039674</a></div>
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                              <div style="font-family: Helvetica;">-Ryan</div>
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                              <div>On May 4, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Anthony
                                Kouloglou wrote:</div>
                              <br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
                              <div><font size="-1"><font face="Trebuchet
                                    MS">Hi, i have followed cisco
                                    recommendations to simulate hot line
                                    support for CUCM 7.1.5.<br>
                                    These recommendations are:<br>
                                    created a blank translation pattern
                                    that has a partition that is
                                    included only in a css that a few
                                    devices have.<br>
                                    This TP, has an Called Party
                                    Transform mask mask of a target DN.<br>
                                    So, when, one of these phones go
                                    offhook, it matches this TP and
                                    dials the appropriate number.<br>
                                    But this does not seem to work with
                                    ATA 187.<br>
                                    Is does nothing when picking up the
                                    phone.<span
                                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
                                    Does it has to do with SIP?<br>
                                    Has anyone tried it before?</font></font><span
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