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<font size="-1"><font face="Trebuchet MS">Hi Thanks for the update,
and Lelio too,<br>
but i do have 3 dozens of ATA 187 since cisco could not provide
me 186 (they were end of sale).<br>
They told me that they are replacements for ATA 186.<br>
I could expect from them to do the appropriate clarification.<br>
I am really, really frustrated.<br>
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On 6/5/2011 02:50, Matthew Ballard wrote:
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73, 125);">The VG200 series (VG202, VG204, VG224) as well
any Cisco routers with the appropriate voice ports can be
setup to do what you want. I have lines in a VG224 setup as
SCCP lines in CM, with that very functionality in place, and
it works just fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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windowtext;"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Anthony Kouloglou<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Ratliff<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco ATA 187 and
connection plar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";">Hi all,<br>
it does not work with ATA187 :-(<br>
I don't know if there is a way to overcome the problem.<br>
I am really desperate.<br>
Why can't cisco create a sip dial rule that works with that?<br>
ATA 187 is from the same vendor that makes the Call Manager:
CiSCO!!<br>
You may have tones of them in places that you want that
feature (elevators, lobbys, bathrooms).<br>
It is really hard to believe...<br>
<br>
</span><br>
On 4/5/2011 18:02, Ryan Ratliff wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I don't know much at all about the ATA 187
but nothing in the Admin Guide leads me to believe it's a
feature the ATA supports itself. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The data sheet did have the words "dial
plan" on it but I have no idea what that specifically
references. I'd say you are in the realm of try it and see
if it works or not.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If it doesn't work and is a feature you
need then you need to get in touch with your account team to
have them get a feature request in for the ATA.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On May 4, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Anthony
Kouloglou wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
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MS","sans-serif";">Hi Ryan,<br>
what do you mean </span><span style="font-size:
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MS","sans-serif";">"</span><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">to be configured on the ATA
itself</span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt;
font-family: "Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif";">" </span><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet
MS","sans-serif";">?<br>
Is it possible to configure this way an ATA 187?</span><span
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On 4/5/2011 17:46, Ryan Ratliff wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On a VG where you configure
dial-peers you can configure 'connection plar' on the
voice-port just as you would on any other router that is
not controlled by CUCM. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The ATA is the tricky one. It
likely did not exist at the time that doc was written
and so if it supports SIP dial rules from CUCM it'll
work. If it doesn't then any plar functionality would
have to be configured on the ATA itself.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On May 4, 2011, at 10:27 AM,
Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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color: black;"><img
moz-do-not-send="true"
id="_x0000_i1026"
src="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/i/templates/blank.gif"
width="1" border="0" height="2">Only
Cisco Unified IP Phones 7940/41,
7960/61, and 7970/71 support PLAR for
SIP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Guess that means if you need analog PLAR,
you need VG224/202/204 running something
else other than SIP?<br>
<br>
Good to know.<br>
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---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph
* Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<br>
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color: black;">From:<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif";
color: black;">"Ryan Ratliff" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com">rratliff@cisco.com</a>><br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Anthony
Kouloglou" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:akoul@dataways.gr">akoul@dataways.gr</a>><br>
<b>Cc:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday,
May 4, 2011 10:22:34 AM<br>
<b>Subject:<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re:
[cisco-voip] Cisco ATA 187 and connection
plar<br>
<br>
SIP phones don't signal offhook to CUCM in
the same way SCCP phones do so there is no
opportunity for CUCM to treat it as a call
with no dialed number. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
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color: black;">For SIP you need to
configure dial rules.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10pt; font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif";
color: black;"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/7_1_2/ccmsys/a03adial.html#wpmkr1039674"
target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/7_1_2/ccmsys/a03adial.html#wpmkr1039674</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color: black;">-Ryan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif";
color: black;">On May 4, 2011, at 9:06
AM, Anthony Kouloglou wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Hi, i have
followed cisco recommendations to
simulate hot line support for CUCM
7.1.5.<br>
These recommendations are:<br>
created a blank translation pattern
that has a partition that is included
only in a css that a few devices have.<br>
This TP, has an Called Party Transform
mask mask of a target DN.<br>
So, when, one of these phones go
offhook, it matches this TP and dials
the appropriate number.<br>
But this does not seem to work with
ATA 187.<br>
Is does nothing when picking up the
phone.<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
Does it has to do with SIP?<br>
Has anyone tried it before?</span><span
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