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    <font size="-1"><font face="Trebuchet MS">Hi Thanks for the update,
        and Lelio too,<br>
        but i do have 3 dozens of ATA 187 since cisco could not provide
        me 186 (they were end of sale).<br>
        They told me that they are replacements for ATA 186.<br>
        I could expect from them to do the appropriate clarification.<br>
        I am really, really frustrated.<br>
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    On 6/5/2011 02:50, Matthew Ballard wrote:
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">The VG200 series (VG202, VG204, VG224) as well
            any Cisco routers with the appropriate voice ports can be
            setup to do what you want.  I have lines in a VG224 setup as
            SCCP lines in CM, with that very functionality in place, and
            it works just fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">Matthew Ballard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">Network Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">Otis College of Art and Design<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              href="mailto:mballard@otis.edu">mballard@otis.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
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                  windowtext;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:
                10pt; font-family:
                "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:
                windowtext;"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Anthony Kouloglou<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:09 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Ryan Ratliff<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco ATA 187 and
                connection plar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
            "Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";">Hi all,<br>
            it does not work with ATA187 :-(<br>
            I don't know if there is a way to overcome the problem.<br>
            I am really desperate.<br>
            Why can't cisco create a sip dial rule that works with that?<br>
            ATA 187 is from the same vendor that makes the Call Manager:
            CiSCO!!<br>
            You may have tones of them in places that you want that
            feature (elevators, lobbys, bathrooms).<br>
            It is really hard to believe...<br>
            <br>
          </span><br>
          On 4/5/2011 18:02, Ryan Ratliff wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I don't know much at all about the ATA 187
          but nothing in the Admin Guide leads me to believe it's a
          feature the ATA supports itself. <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">The data sheet did have the words "dial
            plan" on it but I have no idea what that specifically
            references.  I'd say you are in the realm of try it and see
            if it works or not.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">If it doesn't work and is a feature you
            need then you need to get in touch with your account team to
            have them get a feature request in for the ATA.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;
                  font-family:
                  "Helvetica","sans-serif"; color:
                  black;">-Ryan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On May 4, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Anthony
                Kouloglou wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                  font-family: "Trebuchet
                  MS","sans-serif";">Hi Ryan,<br>
                  what do you mean </span><span style="font-size:
                  7.5pt; font-family: "Trebuchet
                  MS","sans-serif";">"</span><span
                  style="font-size: 10pt;">to be configured on the ATA
                  itself</span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt;
                  font-family: "Trebuchet
                  MS","sans-serif";">" </span><span
                  style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet
                  MS","sans-serif";">?<br>
                  Is it possible to configure this way an ATA 187?</span><span
                  style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Trebuchet
                  MS","sans-serif";"><br>
                </span><br>
                On 4/5/2011 17:46, Ryan Ratliff wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">On a VG where you configure
                dial-peers you can configure 'connection plar' on the
                voice-port just as you would on any other router that is
                not controlled by CUCM. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">The ATA is the tricky one.  It
                  likely did not exist at the time that doc was written
                  and so if it supports SIP dial rules from CUCM it'll
                  work.  If it doesn't then any plar functionality would
                  have to be configured on the ATA itself.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          13.5pt; font-family:
                          "Helvetica","sans-serif";">-Ryan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">On May 4, 2011, at 10:27 AM,
                        Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <br>
                      <span class="apple-style-span"><span
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                          12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
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                            color: black;">According to that doc:</span><span
                            style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                            "Verdana","sans-serif";
                            color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            center;" align="center"><span
                              style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
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                              color: black;">
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                                  style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                  "Verdana","sans-serif";
                                  color: black;">Note </span></b><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                "Verdana","sans-serif";
                                color: black;"><img
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  id="_x0000_i1026"
                                  src="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/i/templates/blank.gif"
                                  width="1" border="0" height="2">Only
                                Cisco Unified IP Phones 7940/41,
                                7960/61, and 7970/71 support PLAR for
                                SIP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            center;" align="center"><span
                              style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
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                              color: black;">
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                          12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
                            font-family:
                            "Verdana","sans-serif";
                            color: black;"><br>
                            Guess that means if you need analog PLAR,
                            you need VG224/202/204 running something
                            else other than SIP?<br>
                            <br>
                            Good to know.<br>
                            <br>
                            ---<br>
                            Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
                            Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph
                            * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
                            (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
                            (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
                            Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it
                            and forget it.<span
                              class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
                                                          - LFJ (with
                            apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br>
                            <br>
                            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:
                              10pt; font-family:
                              "Verdana","sans-serif";
                              color: black;">From:<span
                                class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span
                            style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                            "Verdana","sans-serif";
                            color: black;">"Ryan Ratliff" <<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com">rratliff@cisco.com</a>><br>
                            <b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Anthony
                            Kouloglou" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:akoul@dataways.gr">akoul@dataways.gr</a>><br>
                            <b>Cc:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a>"
                            <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
                            <b>Sent:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday,
                            May 4, 2011 10:22:34 AM<br>
                            <b>Subject:<span
                                class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re:
                            [cisco-voip] Cisco ATA 187 and connection
                            plar<br>
                            <br>
                            SIP phones don't signal offhook to CUCM in
                            the same way SCCP phones do so there is no
                            opportunity for CUCM to treat it as a call
                            with no dialed number.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                              10pt; font-family:
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                              color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                              10pt; font-family:
                              "Verdana","sans-serif";
                              color: black;">For SIP you need to
                              configure dial rules.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/7_1_2/ccmsys/a03adial.html#wpmkr1039674"
                                target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/7_1_2/ccmsys/a03adial.html#wpmkr1039674</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                  "Helvetica","sans-serif";
                                  color: black;">-Ryan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                  "Verdana","sans-serif";
                                  color: black;">On May 4, 2011, at 9:06
                                  AM, Anthony Kouloglou wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  style="font-size: 10pt;">Hi, i have
                                  followed cisco recommendations to
                                  simulate hot line support for CUCM
                                  7.1.5.<br>
                                  These recommendations are:<br>
                                  created a blank translation pattern
                                  that has a partition that is included
                                  only in a css that a few devices have.<br>
                                  This TP, has an Called Party Transform
                                  mask mask of a target DN.<br>
                                  So, when, one of these phones go
                                  offhook, it matches this TP and dials
                                  the appropriate number.<br>
                                  But this does not seem to work with
                                  ATA 187.<br>
                                  Is does nothing when picking up the
                                  phone.<span
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                                  Does it has to do with SIP?<br>
                                  Has anyone tried it before?</span><span
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