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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think even if you are not on the US non-friends countries, but the document defines certain group of “green countries” that no problem to sell restricted countries…for others “and I think Egypt is among them” you have to agree that you accept any sudden visit from a US government authority to check that you are using these encryption techniques in a way that will not harm US security…which is not accepted for a lot of customers from a confidential point of view “especially government sensitive authorities”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I don’t know how our sales/presales is dealing with that…anyway I don’t care I just install whatever is delivered to me </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:gray'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:gray'>Ahmed Elnagar </span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:gray'>|<b> Unified Communication Team Leader </b>| <b>CCIE #24697, Voice<o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=209 height=42 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CC2881.5137DED0" alt="Description: Description: MS Green"></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jason Aarons (AM)<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> Norton, Mike; Chris Ward (chrward); Joe Martini (joemar2)<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs. Unrestricted CUCM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Re-reading my post I mean to type you should generally be using Restricted unless your country is on the bad guys list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Norton, Mike [mailto:mikenorton@pwsd76.ab.ca] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 11, 2011 2:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jason Aarons (AM); Chris Ward (chrward); Joe Martini (joemar2)<br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs. Unrestricted CUCM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Why would they really want everyone using unrestricted, if unrestricted is the version with no encryption technology?<br><br>I always thought it was:<br>restricted = only certain countries<br>unrestricted = all countries<br><br>????<br><br>--<br>Mike Norton<br>I.T. Support<br>Peace Wapiti School Division No. 76<br>Helpdesk: 780-831-3080<br>Direct: 780-831-3076<br><br>________________________________<br>From: Jason Aarons (AM) [jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com]<br>Sent: June-11-11 5:01 AM<br>To: Norton, Mike; Chris Ward (chrward); Joe Martini (joemar2)<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> <br>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs. Unrestricted CUCM<br><br>No. It’s a US State Department export rules on products with encryption. So the bad guys can’t use them.<br><br>Restricted means everyone but Cuba, North Korea, Sudan, Syria. Unrestricted means no encryption technology. Stuff that gets shipped has to be declared and follow import/export laws. US Citizens can get into trouble selling certain products to countries….<br><br>They really want every using unrestricted except those 4 countries…<br><br><a href="http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/faq.html" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/faq.html</a> <br><br><br>From: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]">[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]</a> On Behalf Of Norton, Mike <br>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 5:49 PM<br>To: Chris Ward (chrward); Joe Martini (joemar2)<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> <br>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs Unrestricted CUCM<br><br><br>So then – is this a mistake in the 8.6 release notes?<br><br>“The unrestricted version of Unified CM 8.6(1) is available in limited markets only.”<br><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/rel_notes/8_6_1/cucm-rel_notes-861.html#wp1945250" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/rel_notes/8_6_1/cucm-rel_notes-861.html#wp1945250</a> <br><br>Based on what you’ve said, shouldn’t the release notes say that the *restricted* version is only in limited markets?<br><br>--<br>Mike Norton<br>I.T. Support<br>Peace Wapiti School Division No. 76<br>Helpdesk: 780-831-3080<br>Direct: 780-831-3076<br><br><br>From: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]">[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]</a> On Behalf Of Chris Ward (chrward) <br>Sent: June-07-11 7:47 AM<br>To: Ahmed Elnagar; Joe Martini (joemar2)<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> <br>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs Unrestricted CUCM<br><br>And Ahmed, just for your edification, Restricted vs. Unrestricted has to do with export law. Certain security features built into CUCM can’t legally be exported to certain countries so we have a “Restricted” which includes these features, and an “Unrestricted” which doesn’t include the security features.<br><br>The titles just represent where the software can be shipped to.<br><br>+Chris<br>Hosted Collaboration Solution TME<br><br>From: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]">[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]</a> On Behalf Of Ahmed Elnagar <br>Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:11 AM<br>To: Joe Martini (joemar2)<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> <br>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs Unrestricted CUCM<br><br>Thanks a lot Joe…<br>How silly that fixed in releases is all 8.6 and it is still in the beta window!!!<br><br>Regards,<br>Ahmed Elnagar | Unified Communication Team Leader | CCIE #24697, Voice<br>[Description: Description: MS Green]<br><br>From: Joe Martini <a href="mailto:[mailto:joemar2@cisco.com]">[mailto:joemar2@cisco.com]</a><br>Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 3:00 PM<br>To: Ahmed Elnagar<br>Cc: 'cips'; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> <br>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs Unrestricted CUCM<br><br>The network services being blank is due to <a href="http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?method=fetchBugDetails&bugId=CSCtl82213." target="_blank">http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?method=fetchBugDetails&bugId=CSCtl82213.</a> <br><br>Joe<br><br>On Jun 7, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Ahmed Elnagar wrote:<br><br>Then do you know why when I select control center > network services I found the below strange window<br><br>Where these services gone “CDR, security, backup and restore…etc?”<br><br><image002.jpg><br><br>From: cips <a href="mailto:[mailto:cisco@cips.nl]">[mailto:cisco@cips.nl]</a><br>Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 2:20 PM<br>To: 'Ahmed Elnagar'; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net%3cmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs Unrestricted CUCM<br><br>You should be able to see this when you logon to the ccmadmin page.<br><br>If it says nothing, it is a restricted version ;-)<br><br>From: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net%3cmailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>> <a href="mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]">[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]</a> On Behalf Of Ahmed Elnagar<br>Sent: dinsdag 7 juni 2011 14:16<br>To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net%3cmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>Subject: [cisco-voip] Restricted Vs Unrestricted CUCM<br><br>Dear all;<br><br>I have a lab setup of CUCM 8.5 and I want to know if the install image is restricted or unrestricted…file name is not as it was copied…any command on CUCM to know this?<br><br><br>Regards,<br>Ahmed Elnagar | Unified Communication Team Leader | CCIE #24697, Voice<br><image003.png>Please consider the enviroment before printing this e-mail.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net%3cmailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a> <br><br><br><br>itevomcid<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>