<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>OK. Thanks, I think I understand now. The underlying problem is the move to RHEL v5. I'm guessing this move doesn't happen to often.<span><br><br><span name="x"></span>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>                              - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)<br><span name="x"></span><br></span><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Adam Frankel (afrankel)" <afrankel@cisco.com><br><b>To: </b>"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br><b>Cc: </b>"cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>, "Jason Aarons (AM)" <jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, August 15, 2011 1:45:53 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] 8.6 Upgrades L2 Upgrade vs Refresh Upgrade<br><br>

  
    
  
    <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px;"><font face="Arial">You
        cannot DRF backup and restore to a different version.  Normal L2
        upgrades make the use of "to side" (new version) binaries while
        still running in the "from side" (old version).   In previous
        versions this was not an issue as binaries from different rhel
        versions could be run across versions.   Rhel5 binaries cannot
        be run in Rhel4, creating the need for the RU upgrade.<br>
        <br>
        HTH,<br>
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      <pre class="moz-signature">Adam </pre>
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        ------------Original Message--------------<br>
        From: Lelio Fulgenzi <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank"><lelio@uoguelph.ca></a><br>
        Sent: Mon, Aug 15, 2011 12:45:11 Am<br>
        To: Adam Frankel (afrankel) <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:afrankel@cisco.com" target="_blank"><afrankel@cisco.com></a><br>
        CC: "cisco-voip (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)"
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><cisco-voip@puck.nether.net></a>, "Jason Aarons (AM)"
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank"><jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com></a><br>
        Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 8.6 Upgrades L2 Upgrade vs Refresh
        Upgrade<br>
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        <div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I haven't read through the release notes as to why the
          128GB device is necessary, but is there any reason why this
          couldn't be done using the standard DRF utilities? I'm sure
          every entity is different, but now if I start having to
          purchase additional hardware for these upgrades after the
          whole "we can upgrade to a non-active partition" speech, it's
          gonna be difficult.<span><br>
            <br>
            <span></span>---<br>
            Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
            Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph,
            Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
            (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
            Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it. <br>
                                          - LFJ (with apologies to Mr.
            Popeil)<br>
            <span></span><br>
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          <hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Adam Frankel (afrankel)"
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:afrankel@cisco.com" target="_blank"><afrankel@cisco.com></a><br>
          <b>To: </b>"Jason Aarons (AM)"
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank"><jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com></a><br>
          <b>Cc: </b>"cisco-voip (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)"
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><cisco-voip@puck.nether.net></a><br>
          <b>Sent: </b>Monday, August 15, 2011 12:32:00 PM<br>
          <b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] 8.6 Upgrades L2 Upgrade vs
          Refresh Upgrade<br>
          <br>
          <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px;"><font face="Arial">Both are considered refresh upgrades because
              of the RHEL version change underneath.  CUCM upgrade
              requires a USB drive and wipes the drives as well but only
              for 7825H3 and 7828H3.<br>
              <br>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US</a></font>
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            <font face="Arial">/partner/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/rel_notes/8_6_1/cucm-rel_notes-861a.html#wp1996982<br>
              <br>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-16898" target="_blank">https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-16898</a><br>
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              <pre class="moz-signature">Adam </pre>
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              ------------Original Message--------------<br>
              From: Jason Aarons (AM) <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com" target="_blank"><jason.aarons@dimensiondata.com></a><br>
              Sent: Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:51:24 Am<br>
              To: cisco-voip (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>)
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"><cisco-voip@puck.nether.net></a><br>
              CC: <br>
              Subject: [cisco-voip] 8.6 Upgrades L2 Upgrade vs Refresh
              Upgrade<br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Per the Release Notes;</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal">For CallManger 8.6 is L2 Upgrade,
                  upgrades using Inactive partition.</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal">For Unity Connection 8.6 is a
                  Refresh Upgrade (wipes drive, 128GB  USB required)</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal">How come they aren’t both a Refresh
                  Upgrades? Why the difference under the hood?</p>
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                <p class="MsoPlainText"><a href="https://supportforums.cisco.com/community/netpro/collaboration-voice-video/unified-comm-application/blog/2011/08/11/checklist-before-upgrading-to-unity-connection-86" target="_blank">https://supportforums.cisco.com/community/netpro/collaboration-voice-video/unified-comm-application/blog/2011/08/11/checklist-before-upgrading-to-unity-connection-86</a></p>
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